On Sat, 3 May 2008 20:01:58 -0700 (PDT), "OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<OBVES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Can Obves be called a false prophet ?
And if this self-proclaimed "prophet" is _wrong_, then it shows
they were not speaking for God - it's that simple. True prophets
for God are not wrong when they claim an event will happen when
they say it will happen in the name of the Lord.
You've both predicted, in the name of God, the world ending
before. And you've been wrong. The Bible shows us that you do not
speak for God, a fact you choose to ignore and continue to run
from:
Your other predictions, both you and Harold Camping, who claim to
be able to discern for us what God says, have been wrong. God's
word then tells us plainly: you are not speaking for God, but you
presume to claim to everyone else that you are. You are not, and
what you're claiming God never laid out in His word.
How do we know all this for a fact? Because God tells us about
such people and how to spot them easily:
Deuteronomy 18:22 KJVR When a prophet speaketh in the name of
the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the
thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken
it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
What you claimed did not come to pass. Hence what you claimed is
a thing which the LORD has not spoken, and you have spoken it
presumptuously.
Why not be afraid of him (this self-proclaimed "prophet")?
Because he's not a prophet at all, but someone dishonestly
claiming to be a prophet of God.
Meanwhile, we are commanded to watch and pray because Christ
could return at _any_ time. Today. Tomorrow. Any time, and we
don't know when.
: Only true servants of God
: Yahweh of the class 144000 specially chosen people can determine who
: are false prophets ! And sure they will be people from outside of the
: class 144000 and their followers . Just to take it on common sense .
: Those who are of the true christian religion and teach others to
: follow them can never be called false prophets ! If they were called
: so there would be no true christian religion in existence in a given
: time.
:
: To make this matter more unbearable to obstinate renegade christians
: you would have to show to those servants of the class 144000 that you
: have superior views on the Bible ! To attack Jehovah's Witnesses you
: would have to give them an alternative views they could turn to
: provided the views are better !
:
: You heard about Harold Camping who is also predicting the year 2011
: AD in a different way. He is so brilliant
Therein lies the problem. You wor****p brilliance rather than in
following the truth of God's Word.
: in explanation of the Bible
: surpassing most christian religions that if his prediction failed he
: would not turn to catholic religion to become a catholic ! He wil stay
: in his religion because he sees his views on the Bible as the best .
: He was predicting the year 1994 AD and what happened ? He basically
: stayed his course and even went farther away from most churches and
: now has a new prediction.
:
: Ronald Weinland will fail in his predictions for 2008 and 2009 he is
: writing about in his book : " 2008 .God's Final Witness ". So can we
: call him a false prophet because of these failures ?
: Not so much . Even if he admits he is a false prophet ! What's the
: problem ?
:
: The problem is that Ronald Weinland apart from his predictions has
: one of the best christian views on the Bible ! Better than 97% of all
: claiming to be christians and from that 97% there will be people who
: may call Weinland a false prophet ! I would prefer to accept
: Weinland's views even if he admits he is a false prophet over the
: views of those 97% christians !
:
: So , you can see now that there must some other, hidden to most
: people - way of determining who is a false prophet today according to
: the Bible.
: Read my previous post and combine it with this new one to have a
: bigger picture.
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