hank wrote:
> This both an invitation and a challenge to religionists to provide
objective
> verifiable evidence that there is some REAL God that we need to cater to
>
> A primary one is that there are thousands of different gods and god
beliefs.
> Any REAL god would surely make it abundantly clear, that he is the real
god
> and all the others are fakes. He would surely use his unlimited power
to
> expose and eliminate all the fakes. Why would he permit his creations to
be
> misled by all these false gods?
This has always been my line of thought,
but it seems some are brainwashed so badly,
clear cut concise thinking is entirely out of the question.
>
> If there was a REAL would he not destroy the thousands of false gods and
>
> establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his
heaven.
The early primitives had 'Him' say "I am a jealous god" in that old book
they
put together to fool the m*****.
But they forgot to indicate exactly what 'He' was going to do about it, so
they
had Jesus cure a leper, but not all lepers mind, that would have been the
work
of the son of a real god
>
>
> If man can communicate with the whole world by Phone, Radio, the
Internet
> and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god to communicate
> directly with his creations without thousands of intermediates of
> questionable veracity.
>
> Why would not a real god announce directly and authoritatively from his
> heaven,
>
> that he is the real god and what do***ents are authentic and which are
fakes
> and
>
> destroy them? He certainly should want to prevent his creations from
being.
>
> deceived and mislead
>
> Although billions of people have died there is not a single
'authenticated
> and proven'
>
> case where anyone of them has ever communicated with their living
children,
>
> spouses or friends.
>
> Why would god not allow these souls in his heaven to explain and confirm
the
>
> virtues, benefits and even the existence of his heaven? Logic says it is
> because they
>
> don't exist after death!
>
> All religions are ALL based on ancient myths and tales and NO god has
> directly AUTHENTICATED ANY of them.
>
> Man can directly communicate with the whole world via TV, the Internet,
> Phone and Radio and the postal service. IF there is a real god, why does
he
> not announce to the whole world from his heaven, by at least equally
> effective means, that he is the real god and all the others are fakes?
And
> why does he not tell us clearly and directly what he expects from us
instead
> of using hundreds of vague, ancient, contradictory, unoriginal
do***ents,
> compiled by different religions and hundreds of men of unknown veracity?
Why
> does he not expose and smite all the false gods and doctrines?
>
> An all powerful creator of this huge Universe would have no need or
desire
> for people to sing hymns and waste their time on their knees in
adulation.
> This type of thing is the practice of greedy leaders with a need to
satisfy
> their selfish egos.
>
> An all powerful creator of this huge Universe and everything in it would
> have no need or desire to create, Sin, Devils, Evil, Spirits or Hells
>
> There would be no need for basing ones life on 'FAITH' and the
preaching's
> of errant selfish men because we would have direct communication and
> authentification directly from this all powerful REAL god
>
> There is no evidence that any of these gods communicate with any fully
sane
> persons.
>
> No dead fathers, mothers relatives or friends ever verify there heaven
or
> hell with their living siblings or friends.
>
> There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs.
>
> They can't all be true and no REAL god would permit this massive
deception
> of his creations.
>
> Major religions;
>
> Baha'i Faith
> Buddhism
> Adventist
> Jehovah's Witnesses
> British Israelism
> Southern Baptists
> American Baptists
>
> Catholics
> Christian Science
> Amish
> Brethren
> Mennonites
> Quakers
> Shakers
> Plymouth Brethren
> Fundamentalists
> Twin Oaks
> Con****ianism
> Hinduism
> Islam
> Jainism
> Judaism
> ****nto
> Sikhism
> Taoism
> Vodun (Voodoo)
> Neopagan Religious Faiths
> Asatru (Norse Paganism)
> Druidism
> Goddess Wor****p
> Wicca
> Witchcraft
> Caodaism
> Damanhur Community
> Druse
> Eckankar
> Elian Gonzalez religious movement
> Gnosticism
> Gypsies
> Hare Krishna - ISKCON
> Lukumi
> Ma***ba
> Mowahhidoon
> Native American Spirituality
> Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies)
> Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement
> Satanism; The Church of Satan
> Scientology
> Unitarian-Universalism
> The Creativity Movement
> Zoroastrianism
>
> Any all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent designer,
would
> not create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth
Quakes,
> Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body
> malfunctions and starvation all of which punish people indiscriminately
> regardless of their behavior or religious beliefs. If he did he would
not be
> an all loving all caring god but a brutal malevolent creature or nothing
at
> all. There are 12,000 known diseases that torture and kill man. The
reality
> is that no all loving and all powerful god would create or permit these
> diseases to punish men of all religious persuasion and particularly
totally
> INNOCENT CHILDREN.
>
> Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent
gods;
>
> Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing?
> Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing?
> Then where does evil come from?
> Is he neither able nor willing?
> Then why call him a god?
>
> Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is
things
> seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
>
> There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
> Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of man. These
> beliefs are held to help people deal with their panic fear of death and
what
> comes after.
>
> When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for some things existence
it
> is logical to assume it does no exist. The LACK of evidence is not
evidence
> of some things existence.
>
> The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the
opposite;
> that man created imaginary gods! (thousands of them!)
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