"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:07:17 -0400, "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>>"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> On 5 Apr 2008 00:40:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Antares 531 wrote:
>>>>> On 31 Mar 2008 06:46:02 -0500, bob young
<alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>> (snip)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible
>>>>> >fooleries of
>>>>> >magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly.
It
>>>>> >is the
>>>>> >price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
>>>>> >intelligent
>>>>> >enough.
>>>>> >[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
>>>>> >
>>>>> As I've posted before, on other threads, I have a computer that
thinks
>>>>> there is no Internet. The truth of the matter is that this computer
>>>>> simply does not have an Internet connection, and therefore can not
>>>>> discern the Internet at all. Antares 531
>>>>
>>>>To believe in God or in a guiding force because someone tells you to
is
>>>>the height
>>>>of stupidity. We are given senses to receive our information within.
>>>>With
>>>>our own
>>>>eyes we see, and with our own skin we feel. With our intelligence, it
is
>>>>intended
>>>>that we understand. But each person must puzzle it out for himself or
>>>>herself.
>>>>[Sophy Burnham]
>>>
>>> The first step is to do an open-minded, unbiased, sincere search for a
>>> "subliminal connection" to God. If a person refuses to do this, there
>>> is no way for that person to ever KNOW that God does or does not
>>> exist. Antares 531
>>
>> With these guys you may need to specify which God you mean. Our
>>Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in Jesus
>>Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
>>therefore
>>know our God and have seen Him through Jesus Christ, our Lord and
Saviour.
>>(Jesus in John 14:6-10)
>> Atheists don't know our God and therefore can't see manifestations
of
>>love and care in human beings, and to the death if need be, such as we
see
>>in Jesus Christ. (Jesus in John 3:3)
>
> This seems quite true, but I was hoping some would indulge in a bit of
> open discussion and perhaps re-examine their mindset.
> The bottom line is, there are no conflicts between science and the
> Bible. The imagined conflicts are the result of incomplete
> understanding, and that can be on either side of the line. Many
> scientists don't have even a vague understanding of the Bible and many
> clergy have little or no understanding of science.
> It simply would not have been workable for God to have given us the
> scriptures in a modern scientific vernacular. Those ancient people
> would not have been able to understand the information at all had it
> been given as a physics seminar presentation. They would have turned
> away from it all and we would not have any recorded information to
> use, today.
> But, we do have the ability to read and translate those ancient
> writings into our current language format, and fit the information
> into our vastly expanding understanding of the natural laws of the
> multiverse.
>
First of all, it not just "seems true" but it IS true, for the Jesus
of
the NT Bible says so. There is no connection between science and religion,
as little as there is between the flesh and the Spirit. That's why Jesus
said in Jn:3:6: That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which
is
born of the Spirit is spirit.
Note it's not half and half`etc. but either or. For one is created
and
the other uncreated. So "natural laws" have no bearing upon religion. For
religion deals with QUALITY and nothing but QUALITY, all else being mere
vehicles to illustrate QUALITY, for our God is the supreme quality of
perfection and who lives in the praises of His people. Perfection is not
subject to natural law.
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