Antares 531 wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2008 06:46:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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> >
> >Antares 531 wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:20:46 -0500, "Jamffer" <jamffer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> wrote:
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> >> >
> >> >"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> >news:hbtpu3pa0mkjs7oqa9n2jube1e94vaf8q2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:53:02 -0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> wrote:
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> >> >> >I can't help but notice that no one can accept the God challenge.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I posted a similer item several days ago and the message was
deleted by
> >> >some
> >> >> >religious wacko. He doesn't mind 'sinning'!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >" Can anyone provide objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL
God
> >> >> >actually exists except in the imaginations of religionists???"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >There are hundreds of different God beliefs and religions.
> >> >> >Why does not any real God smite all the fakes and confirm to his
entire
> >> >> >flock that he is the real God and all the others are fakes???
> >> >> >
> >> >> First, to answer your core question, no, it is not possible to
> >> >> "empirically prove" the existence of God.
> >> >>
> >> >> But, if it were possible to prove the existence of God, would you
or
> >> >> anyone else have anything approximating sovereign will? Or, would
we
> >> >> all be overwhelmed and left with no choice but to go along with
the
> >> >> program? Wouldn't this equate to us all being mere puppets with no
> >> >> sovereign will? Is this what God wants?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, if there was a God. It's called "Gods will". If a God willed
us to
> >> >follow the rules He would let us know in no uncertain terms. Not
speaking
> >> >only to ancient sand people.
> >> >
> >> God has conveyed his instructions to us in a format that could be
> >> understood by those ancient people and by us modern people with no
one
> >> having an advantage because of their education or general
> >> understanding of the universe/multiverse. Everyone is/was treated
> >> equally, and anyone who CHOSES to do so can glean all the information
> >> they need from those ancient writings. Or, they can turn their back
on
> >> the whole idea and go their own volitional way. No one is being
> >> intimidated into compliance.
> >
> >Indeed they are. Religionists fear becoming insignificant because
religions
> >thrive on arrogance and the need to control people. Nothing new in
humans.
> >
> >Islamists want the entire world to become the followers of Islam, it is
their
> >avowed objective and they will kill to achieve it.
> >
> >The intimidation has always been there. It even stretched to burning
people
> >alive during the three hundred years of The Inquisition, because they
had the
> >courage to stand up to primitive superstitions.
> >
> >No god has ever conveyed anything, all we hear and read are the work of
homo
> >sapien.
> >
> >bob
> >Humanist Brit.
> >
> >You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible
fooleries of
> >magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It
is the
> >price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
intelligent
> >enough.
> >[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
> >
> As I've posted before, on other threads, I have a computer that thinks
> there is no Internet. The truth of the matter is that this computer
> simply does not have an Internet connection, and therefore can not
> discern the Internet at all.
To believe in God or in a guiding force because someone tells you to is
the height
of stupidity. We are given senses to receive our information within. With
our own
eyes we see, and with our own skin we feel. With our intelligence, it is
intended
that we understand. But each person must puzzle it out for himself or
herself.
[Sophy Burnham]
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