"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On 31 Mar 2008 06:46:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>>Antares 531 wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:20:46 -0500, "Jamffer" <jamffer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> >news:hbtpu3pa0mkjs7oqa9n2jube1e94vaf8q2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:53:02 -0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >I can't help but notice that no one can accept the God challenge.
>>> >> >I posted a similer item several days ago and the message was
deleted
>>> >> >by
>>> >some
>>> >> >religious wacko. He doesn't mind 'sinning'!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >" Can anyone provide objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL
God
>>> >> >actually exists except in the imaginations of religionists???"
>>> >> >
>>> >> >There are hundreds of different God beliefs and religions.
>>> >> >Why does not any real God smite all the fakes and confirm to his
>>> >> >entire
>>> >> >flock that he is the real God and all the others are fakes???
>>> >> >
>>> >> First, to answer your core question, no, it is not possible to
>>> >> "empirically prove" the existence of God.
>>> >> But, if it were possible to prove the existence of God, would you
or
>>> >> anyone else have anything approximating sovereign will? Or, would
we
>>> >> all be overwhelmed and left with no choice but to go along with the
>>> >> program? Wouldn't this equate to us all being mere puppets with no
>>> >> sovereign will? Is this what God wants?
>>> >
>>> >Yes, if there was a God. It's called "Gods will". If a God willed
us
>>> >to
>>> >follow the rules He would let us know in no uncertain terms. Not
>>> >speaking
>>> >only to ancient sand people.
>>>
>>> God has conveyed his instructions to us in a format that could be
>>> understood by those ancient people and by us modern people with no one
>>> having an advantage because of their education or general
>>> understanding of the universe/multiverse. Everyone is/was treated
>>> equally, and anyone who CHOSES to do so can glean all the information
>>> they need from those ancient writings. Or, they can turn their back on
>>> the whole idea and go their own volitional way. No one is being
>>> intimidated into compliance.
>>
>>Indeed they are. Religionists fear becoming insignificant because
>>religions
>>thrive on arrogance and the need to control people. Nothing new in
>>humans.
>>Islamists want the entire world to become the followers of Islam, it is
>>their
>>avowed objective and they will kill to achieve it.
>>The intimidation has always been there. It even stretched to burning
>>people
>>alive during the three hundred years of The Inquisition, because they
had
>>the
>>courage to stand up to primitive superstitions.
>>No god has ever conveyed anything, all we hear and read are the work of
>>homo
>>sapien.
>>bob
>>Humanist Brit.
>
> As I've posted before, on other threads, I have a computer that thinks
> there is no Internet. The truth of the matter is that this computer
> simply does not have an Internet connection, and therefore can not
> discern the Internet at all.
>
Bob is a typical example of arrested development. His infantile
understanding of the word "god" amounts to that invisible ogre in the sky
that's out to get him for being a bad boy. All his logic is predicated
upon
this god definition and his constant denials of such an ogre existing only
bespeaks his abiding terror.


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