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> On Mar 17, 1:11 pm, bob young <alaspect...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> BIll M wrote:
>> > "duke" <duckgumb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Wrong!!!! There are not gods of atheist definition, but our Christian
> "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16)
This is love???
Why would an all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
designer, create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods,
Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases and
serious body malfunctions? There are 12,000 known diseases that affect and
punish mankind indiscriminately. Why does he permit millions of both young
and old to starve to death or die of miserable diseases? Why punish
millions
of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this horrible way?
Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent
children"
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others
pauper poor? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate into a
miserable and devastating old age regardless of their religious
affiliation?
God supposedly created the world like it is to punish man for Adam and
Eve's
'original sin'. Why does he also punish supposedly innocent animals with
thousands of diseases, birth defects, starvation and to be eaten alive by
other animals?
Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks,
jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, Wolves, poisonous s****s,
stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this caring
benevolent god create animals (including man) that need to painfully kill
and eat other animals to survive?
World War I claimed 9,000,000 lives of people of many religious faiths.
World II indiscriminately claimed over 20,000,000 lives of people of all
ages and religious faiths, plus a vast destruction of property and more
millions maimed for life.
The recent Asian Tsunami claimed the lives of 200,000 men, women and
children of all religious persuasions. Over 100,000 of these were totally
INNOCENT children!
There were three major epidemics of the Bubonic Plaque - in the 6th, 14th.
and 17th centuries. The death toll was over 137 million men, women and
totally innocent children.
The influenza of 1918-1919 killed at least 25 million men, women and
innocent children indiscriminately.
Diseases like malaria, AIDS, tuberculosis, etc. maim and kill millions
indiscriminately every year. More millions die of starvation and
malnutrition.
These indiscriminately afflicted the young and old, atheists and those of
all religious persuasions.
Meanwhile MAN, not god, has developed defenses and cures for hundreds of
serious diseases. Man has learned to create shelter, heat and cooling,
purify water, world wide electronic communications, power and
trans****tation
systems including flying through the air.
Man has created a wonderful medical and drug system and improved housing
and
food production. The result of MAN'S inventiveness has
DOUBLED the average life span. There is no evidence any of this was
created
by any gods.
Perhaps this loving and caring god is actually a cruel, heartless, mean
and
torturing tyrant. If he treats us so cruelly during life, why would he let
us enjoy peace and eternal happiness in his Heaven? And why does he keep
this heavenly after life a secret by preventing communication with him or
our dead parents, siblings and friends?
There are thousands of religious and god beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE
VERIFIABLE
EVIDENCE for the actual existence of ANY of these gods. ALL god beliefs
are
based purely on the 'opinions' and "claims" of errant selfish men.
The objective evidence is if there is a god creator, he has NO concern
about
the welfare of the creatures on this Earth.
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created gods!
Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is things
seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of religionists
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (thousands of them!)
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