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Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE

by bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 31, 2008 at 06:46 AM

Antares 531 wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:20:46 -0500, "Jamffer" <jamffer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >news:hbtpu3pa0mkjs7oqa9n2jube1e94vaf8q2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:53:02 -0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I can't help but notice that no one can accept the God challenge.
> >> >
> >> >I posted a similer item several days ago and the message was deleted
by
> >some
> >> >religious wacko. He doesn't mind 'sinning'!
> >> >
> >> >" Can anyone provide objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL God
> >> >actually exists except in the imaginations of religionists???"
> >> >
> >> >There are hundreds of different God beliefs and religions.
> >> >Why does not any real God smite all the fakes and confirm to his
entire
> >> >flock that he is the real God and all the others are fakes???
> >> >
> >> First, to answer your core question, no, it is not possible to
> >> "empirically prove" the existence of God.
> >>
> >> But, if it were possible to prove the existence of God, would you or
> >> anyone else have anything approximating sovereign will? Or, would we
> >> all be overwhelmed and left with no choice but to go along with the
> >> program? Wouldn't this equate to us all being mere puppets with no
> >> sovereign will? Is this what God wants?
> >
> >Yes, if there was a God.  It's called "Gods will".  If a God willed us
to
> >follow the rules He would let us know in no uncertain terms.  Not
speaking
> >only to ancient sand people.
> >
> God has conveyed his instructions to us in a format that could be
> understood by those ancient people and by us modern people with no one
> having an advantage because of their education or general
> understanding of the universe/multiverse. Everyone is/was treated
> equally, and anyone who CHOSES to do so can glean all the information
> they need from those ancient writings. Or, they can turn their back on
> the whole idea and go their own volitional way. No one is being
> intimidated into compliance.

Indeed they are.  Religionists fear becoming insignificant because
religions
thrive on arrogance and the need to control people.  Nothing new in
humans.

Islamists want the entire world to become the followers of Islam, it is
their
avowed objective and they will kill to achieve it.

The intimidation has always been there.  It even stretched to burning
people
alive during the three hundred years of The Inquisition, because they had
the
courage to stand up to primitive superstitions.

No god has ever conveyed anything, all we hear and read are the work of
homo
sapien.

bob
Humanist Brit.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible
fooleries of
magic and religion.  Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly.  It is
the
price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
intelligent
enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
 




 30 Posts in Topic:
THE GOD CHALLENGE
"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-27 10:53:02 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
"Thurisaz, Germanic   2008-03-27 18:31:18 
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John Locke <johnlocke9  2008-03-28 00:15:10 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-03-28 13:47:30 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-28 10:14:41 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-03-28 16:43:35 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-28 14:01:25 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-03-28 20:45:57 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-30 09:08:26 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-02 18:55:57 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-29 05:26:02 
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"Jamffer" <j  2008-03-28 12:20:46 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-03-28 16:50:43 
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"Jamffer" <j  2008-03-28 12:57:18 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-31 06:46:02 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-02 18:59:05 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
"Pastor Frank"   2008-04-03 06:05:35 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-05 00:40:02 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-05 08:18:43 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-04-05 15:07:17 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-06 13:46:29 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-04-06 11:51:07 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-06 20:13:48 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-06 23:43:02 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-05 22:36:02 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-06 08:29:02 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-28 14:26:01 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
Joe <josephjester@[EMA  2008-03-29 05:30:24 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-29 21:25:27 
Re: THE GOD CHALLENGE
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-29 02:14:21 

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