On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:47:30 GMT, Antares 531
<gordonlrDELETE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:53:02 -0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
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>>I can't help but notice that no one can accept the God challenge.
>>
>>I posted a similer item several days ago and the message was deleted by
some
>>religious wacko. He doesn't mind 'sinning'!
>>
>>" Can anyone provide objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL God
>>actually exists except in the imaginations of religionists???"
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>>There are hundreds of different God beliefs and religions.
>>Why does not any real God smite all the fakes and confirm to his entire
>>flock that he is the real God and all the others are fakes???
>>
>First, to answer your core question, no, it is not possible to
>"empirically prove" the existence of God.
Apart from the fallacy of special pleading (which begs the question
of its existence in the first place, which you cop out of answering),
the conclusion is obvious to everybody except those who already
believe.
And the questions wouldn't even be asked if believers had the common
sense and courtesy to keep it within their religion.
But they have neither. So the question gets asked in the "put up or
shut up" sense. And the repeated cop outs and other dishonesty of the
non-answers tells us plenty both about them and the hypothetical
object of their belief.
>But, if it were possible to prove the existence of God, would you or
>anyone else have anything approximating sovereign will? Or, would we
>all be overwhelmed and left with no choice but to go along with the
>program? Wouldn't this equate to us all being mere puppets with no
>sovereign will? Is this what God wants?
Irrelevant, question-begging red herrings.
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