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>> Of course, as we see so fequently here, at the ed of the day nastyness
is
>> all
>> the have.
>> A crutch to lean on? - A pretty awful one if you ask me.
>> And they have the gall to criticise atheism !
>>
> "nasty" is YOUR god or devil, you pay homage to in every one of your
> posts. Our Christian God is glorious and perfect, for our Christian "God
> is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
This is love???
A LOVING AND CARRING GOD???
In your Gods world; Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
Wars,
Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body malfunctions
and
starvation exist that torture both man and animals. There are 12,000
known
ailments and diseases that torture and kill man. A similar number torture
and plaque the rest of the animal kingdom. Thousands of destructive
diseases
affect the plant kingdom. Why would an all powerful god create all these
diseases to torture and kill his creations??? These catastrophes affect
people of ALL religious beliefs including TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN and
ANIMALS!
Just one small example of ridiculous ailments is a parasitic worm in West
Africa that bores through the eyes of innocent children and causes total
blindness for the rest of their lives. Is this evidence of a caring and
loving creator or any competent creator for that matter???
Why would any all powerful competent god permit totally innocent children
to
die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain,
deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and others
with
super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others pauper poor?
Why does he permit 2,000,000 totally innocent children to suffer and die
of
starvation each year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate
into a miserable and devastating old age?
Why would god create a gene for vitamin C synthesis in most mammals, but
stop it working in humans and chimps?
Why would god create a lizard that reproduces by parthenogenesis, and
still give it the need to attempt copulation?
Why would god create birds without the power of flight, yet give them
wings they cannot use?
Why would god create cave-dwelling creatures that live in complete
darkness, yet give them eyes that don't work?
If an all powerful god created this, why did he make so many horrible
mistakes and create this huge multitude of imperfections, pain and
suffering???
Why would any all powerful god create things like sharks, jelly fish,
octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, poisonous s****s, stinging and
poisonous
insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why would he create animals (including
man)
that need to kill and eat other animals to survive?
IF there is an after life and a 'heaven' why does this all powerful, all
caring and all loving god not permit those in his heaven to communicate
the
wonders of his heaven to their living children, relatives and friends? Why
all the secrecy and confusion? Unproven claims by the mentally deranged
and
persons with selfish motives are not objective verifiable evidence - they
are just unsubstantiated silly OPINIONS.
Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?
These god tales make no more sense than Aesop's Fables, the Harry Potter
stories, the Wizard of Oz, or Santa Claus.
The objective evidence is that gods did not create man but quite the
opposite; man created gods!
Where is ANY objective verifiable evidence that ANY Gods actually exist?
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