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> "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>I have come across a Web site that provides clear irrevocable
>>>>>evidence/facts that proves no real Gods exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> They also prove that no religion can provide the help and cures that
>>>>> are claimed.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://godisimaginary.com/i4.htm
>>>> Do you really consider this stuff to be "irrevocable evidence/facts
>>>> that proves no real Gods exist"? Why?
>>>>
>>>> If so, your standards of evidence are no higher than those of
religious
>>>> fundamentalists and the Bush administration's faith based economic
and
>>>> military policies. Why do you think that the scientific
impossibility
>>>> of a literal six day creation and the historic implausibility of
>>>> certain allegorical tales in the Bible removes the possibility that
any
>>>> deity can exist?
>>>>
>>>> The gist of the 21 of 50 "proofs" that I read on your web site is
that
>>>> no god can possibly exist because the Bible and certain other
doctrinal
>>>> points of Christianity can not be literally true. How can you
>>>> logically conclude that no god exists because the Bible and certain
>>>> aspects of Christian doctrine are not literally true?
>>>>
>>>> How does the anecdotal and sometimes coincidental nature of near
death
>>>> experiences, miracles, and other so-called supernatural events that
>>>> believers attribute to an omniscient, omnipotent, interventionist,
>>>> first and only cause creator god constitute "irrevocable
evidence/facts
>>>> that proves no real Gods exist"?
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I only read points 1, 2, 3, 4,5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15,
>>>> 19, 28, 33, 40, 45, 47, 48, 49, and 50. I mean geez, I only have a
>>>> limited amount of time to waste reading nincompoopery. If you
believe
>>>> there is a point or are points I did not read that actually does
>>>> provide "irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real Gods exist,"
>>>> please identify this point or these points.
>>>
>>> Lot's of bluster but NO evidence. Do you have ANY objective verifiable
>>> evidence that any God
>>> actually exists except in peoples imaginations???
>> Speaking of bluster . . . You forgot to address any of the points I
>> raised. I presume you are unable to do so or you would have. Why don't
>> you take a deep breath and try again?
>>
>> No bluster at all. I simply asked six questions regarding the nature
and
>> scope of what you referred to as "irrevocable evidence/facts that
proves
>> no real Gods exist." You were able to answer exactly none of those six
>> questions.
>>
>> Anyway, I doubt there is any "objective verifiable evidence that any
God
>> actually exists." But that does not negate the existence of a god or
>> gods. Besides, I make no such claim. You surely realize that because
the
>> Biblical literalists are mistaken doesn't mean you are right. If you
>> don't know that, you should know that.
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> Duh! Just more windy nonsense.
Still can't answer the question or even defend the web site you pointed to
as containing "clear irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real Gods
exist," eh, Bill?
Perhaps if you hadn't indulged in spasms of certainty where none exists
you
wouldn't look quite so imbecilic. Not even Dawkins or Hitchens or Doherty
or Russell go quite so far as to deny outright the existence of gods. Not
even Dawkins in "The God Delusion" or Hitchens in "God Is Not Great: How
Religion Poisons Everything." Why do you think that is, eh Bill?
Do you consider your intellect superior to those of the gentlemen I just
listed?
"Clear irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real Gods exist"? Geez,
Bill, if there was such evidence there would be more atheists in the USA
than the 1.6% of population re****ted by the Pew Forum on Religion &
Public
Life on February 25th, 2008. You can find a summary and a link to the
entire survey at http://religions.pewforum.org/.
So before you go
bleating
about how many more Americans are atheists that the 1.6% re****ted in this
survey, go read it. And since I am in the "Unaffiliated" group and
assuredly not an atheist, do not make the spurious claim that 16.1%
represents the percentage of atheists in the United States.
Why don't you identify even one of the points at
http://godisimaginary.com/i4.htm
and explain what exactly is your "clear
irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real Gods exist" in that point?
Gods may well be imaginary, but the drivel at
http://godisimaginary.com/i4.htm
is no more or better evidence than the
drivel on the Christian web sites they trot out as evidence for the
existence of God. Just because an atheist wrote it doesn't mean it is
right
as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens demonstrate periodically
beyond
any reasonable doubt. But then the loony right wing Christians use
exactly
the same type of reasoning as the author of
http://godisimaginary.com/i4.htm.
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