"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>>
> <snip>
>>> Yawn. Your idea of christianity is far, far out on the edge of the
>>> bell curve.
>>> Look at all those groups you cross post to and not one single person
>>> has ever defended your beliefs.
>>> I suspect they would defend Catholics before defending you and your
>>> "most im****tant quality"
>>>
>> Why would my quotes need "defending", when they come directly from
>> the Bible itself? Don't you check the Biblical quotes I add below my
>> sig, to make sure they are not my own personal inventions?
>> You sure have a strange notion what Christianity is all about, and
>> you never add the passages which led you to believe that my witness
>> is "far out on the edge". No wonder you are an atheist.
>
> I used to believe that people could not be as dumb as your statement
above
> but I've learned otherwise.
> ALL 20,000 plus chrisatian chuches use the bible to defend their
beliefs.
> They do it by quoting passages they like and redefining the meaning or
> ignoring those they don't like.
> They all claim that their beliefs are the absolute ones.
> Luther, who wanted to kill all the jews said
> "I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even the
angels.
> He who does not receive my doctrine cannot be saved"
> -- Martin Luther Werke (Erlangen),XXIX , 217-33, on Maritian, 15.
> Do you believe that any church agrees with you?
> The KKK, The RCC, JW's, SDA's, Mormon's, even the moonies, and all the
> baptists in the world don't believe in your definition of god
>
Talk about "dumb" believing that all those sects you mention reference
their beliefs to the Bible. I have no independent definition for the word
"god", as you apparently do, for my God definition comes from Jesus Christ
as He explains it to His disciple Philip, for only His definition makes
sense. See below
Pastor Frank
"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:
The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of
whatever is your standard of virtue and ideal of perfection against
which you measure all behaviour. (Jesus in Matthew. 5:48)
I.e. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos)
of
this world", i.e. reality. And again in Philippians 3:19, Paul says there
are people: "...whose God (theos) is their belly", i.e. pleasure.
Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT", (i.e. akin to a
quality of attitude, like love and care which imbues a person), and "they
that wor****p him must wor****p him in spirit and in truth." Jesus explains
further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth,
and
the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye
should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND
HAVE SEEN HIM." Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it
sufficeth us." Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you,
and
yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE
FATHER; and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not
that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto
you I speak not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH
THE
WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that LOVETH not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the LOVE that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in LOVE dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one
another; as I have LOVED you, that ye also LOVE one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples,
if ye have LOVE one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye LOVE one
another,
as I have LOVED you. Greater LOVE hath no man than this, that a man lay
down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as
certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
Heb:1:8: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and
ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
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