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Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.

by Uncle Vic <address@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 3, 2008 at 03:57 AM

One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> 
> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:47CB0B07.BDE35152@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Uncle Vic wrote:
>>
>>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "Malcolm McLean"
>>> <regniztar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The truth is that a lot of atheist arguments boil down to what I
>>> > call the "writing on the Moon" argument. If God exists, surely
>>> > He'd make it completely untenable to hold the position that He
>>> > doesn't exist. To an extent that's a legitimate argument, but a
>>> > riposte can be "if there was no God surely we'd have made belief
>>> > in Him totally untenable by now".
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the believers have fool-proofed the arguments by
>>>
>>> 1. Making it a mortal sin to question your beliefs.
>>> 2. Prescribing a punishment for disbelief so unfoundedly horrible
>>> that no one would dare lose the faith.
>>> 3. Making examples of heretics and unbelievers by puni****ng them 
>>> publically
>>> and horribly. (Of course, they cannot do this legally any more.)
>>> 4. Early childhood brainwa****ng.
>>> 5. Blocking the teaching of the sciences which plant seeds of doubt
>>> by contradicting religious teaching, then supplying undeniable
>>> evidence to sup****t it.
>>> 6. Rationalizing (ie changing) the dogma itself to conform to that
>>> which we
>>> know about reality wich contradicts the old dogma.
>>>
>>> It's not working, though.  Educated people are leaving the church in
>>> droves.  Some day there will be a world (less the Middle East) free
>>> of the
>>> shackles of religion.  Not in my lifetime, sadly...
>>
>> ....mine neither, but you are right
>>
> 
> That is exactly the reason I post to these groups.  The Internet is a 
> powerful beast.  If I can just put the seeds of doubt into a
> christians mind I believe I am helping the world.  It's the same for
> muslims though - they need to be shown that their invisible Allah
> entity does not exist either. 
> 
> We have nutty Christian Americans and Jews on one side and muslim
> fanatics on the other - a classic recipe for holocaust.  But you're
> right - it won't be in our lifetime.  Maybe in my grandchildren's
> lifetime ?? 
> 
> 

There are still Mithraists and Zoroastrians milling about.  Voudou witch 
doctors.  Wiccans.  No, I think it will be a very long time.  Religion 
may not wink out completely until our species is extinct.

-- 
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped 
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
 




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CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 11:00:54 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-01 11:36:46 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:02:40 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-09 11:59:44 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-01 20:35:24 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 22:29:15 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 17:43:36 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:04:36 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:11:06 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:35:01 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:37:16 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:40:53 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 00:13:35 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:34:19 
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"Gordon L. Richard&q  2008-03-02 20:23:46 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 19:55:08 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:03:49 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-02 05:28:20 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:18:02 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 09:08:55 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:57:06 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:22 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:05 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:31:35 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:54:02 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:17:03 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:24:52 
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"John Smith" &l  2008-03-02 11:39:08 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:25:30 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:10:24 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 08:32:44 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:23:45 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 11:23:08 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:09:19 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-07 16:59:03 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 10:57:09 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 19:13:39 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:04:52 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-03 19:42:01 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-11 16:40:01 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 21:16:19 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 05:06:11 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-01 19:28:34 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-01 17:57:46 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 11:32:16 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 15:23:52 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-03 13:11:04 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 01:41:19 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-05 05:35:56 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 09:12:57 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-03-06 09:53:52 

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