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Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.

by "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 2, 2008 at 09:08 AM

"bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:47CB0B07.BDE35152@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Uncle Vic wrote:
>
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "Malcolm McLean"
<regniztar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The truth is that a lot of atheist arguments boil down to what I call
>> > the "writing on the Moon" argument. If God exists, surely He'd make
it
>> > completely untenable to hold the position that He doesn't exist. To
an
>> > extent that's a legitimate argument, but a riposte can be "if there
>> > was no God surely we'd have made belief in Him totally untenable by
>> > now".
>>
>> Unfortunately, the believers have fool-proofed the arguments by
>>
>> 1. Making it a mortal sin to question your beliefs.
>> 2. Prescribing a punishment for disbelief so unfoundedly horrible that
no
>> one would dare lose the faith.
>> 3. Making examples of heretics and unbelievers by puni****ng them 
>> publically
>> and horribly. (Of course, they cannot do this legally any more.)
>> 4. Early childhood brainwa****ng.
>> 5. Blocking the teaching of the sciences which plant seeds of doubt by
>> contradicting religious teaching, then supplying undeniable evidence to
>> sup****t it.
>> 6. Rationalizing (ie changing) the dogma itself to conform to that
which 
>> we
>> know about reality wich contradicts the old dogma.
>>
>> It's not working, though.  Educated people are leaving the church in
>> droves.  Some day there will be a world (less the Middle East) free of 
>> the
>> shackles of religion.  Not in my lifetime, sadly...
>
> ....mine neither, but you are right
>

That is exactly the reason I post to these groups.  The Internet is a 
powerful beast.  If I can just put the seeds of doubt into a christians
mind 
I believe I am helping the world.  It's the same for muslims though - they

need to be shown that their invisible Allah entity does not exist either.

We have nutty Christian Americans and Jews on one side and muslim fanatics

on the other - a classic recipe for holocaust.  But you're right - it
won't 
be in our lifetime.  Maybe in my grandchildren's lifetime ??
 




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CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 11:00:54 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-01 11:36:46 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:02:40 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-09 11:59:44 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-01 20:35:24 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 22:29:15 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 17:43:36 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:04:36 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:11:06 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:35:01 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:37:16 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:40:53 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 00:13:35 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:34:19 
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"Gordon L. Richard&q  2008-03-02 20:23:46 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 19:55:08 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:03:49 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-02 05:28:20 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:18:02 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 09:08:55 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:57:06 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:22 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:05 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:31:35 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:54:02 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:17:03 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:24:52 
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"John Smith" &l  2008-03-02 11:39:08 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:25:30 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:10:24 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 08:32:44 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:23:45 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 11:23:08 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:09:19 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-07 16:59:03 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 10:57:09 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 19:13:39 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:04:52 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-03 19:42:01 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-11 16:40:01 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 21:16:19 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 05:06:11 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-01 19:28:34 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-01 17:57:46 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 11:32:16 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 15:23:52 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-03 13:11:04 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 01:41:19 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-05 05:35:56 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 09:12:57 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-03-06 09:53:52 

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