Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.

Malcolm McLean wrote:

> "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:g6jyj.10113$5K1.2862@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  If you believe there is a point or are points I did not read that
> > actually does provide "irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real
Gods
> > exist," please identify this point or these points.
> >
> That's unreasonable.
> A pat answer is that you can't prove a negative. So you cannot show that
> there is no monster in Loch Ness. Except you can. You can show how much
food
> flows into and out of the loch, and when you do the calculations you'll
see
> that there's just not enough for it to eat.
>
> The truth is that a lot of atheist arguments boil down to what I call
the
> "writing on the Moon" argument. If God exists, surely He'd make it
> completely untenable to hold the position that He doesn't exist. To an
> extent that's a legitimate argument, but a riposte can be "if there was
no
> God surely we'd have made belief in Him totally untenable by now".

we have you bloody fool

> The fact
> is that all religions except liberal Christianity and (a special case)
> Reform Judaism are untenable, by intellectuals. There's nothing about
> religion that protects it from the razor of science or scholar****p.
Young
> Earth Biblical literalism can be shot down quite easily, for example.
But St
> Augustine did that back in the 5th century.
>
> So what atheists have got to do is chip away at the credibility of
> Christianity.

no, atheists deny all gods

> Not, note, of "theism". Liberal Christianity, and the special
> case of Reform Judaism, are the only opponents still in the ring.
Christinas
> have to chip away at atheist credibility. It's slow, unsatisyfing, but
it's
> the only way of conducting the debate, until God does write those big
> letters on the Moon or some atheist really does come up with something
to
> discredit Christianity.
>
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