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Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.

by "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 2, 2008 at 01:34 AM

"Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Malcolm McLean" <regniztar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>  If you believe there is a point or are points I did not read that 
>>> actually does provide "irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real 
>>> Gods exist," please identify this point or these points.
>>>
>> That's unreasonable.
>> A pat answer is that you can't prove a negative. So you cannot show
that 
>> there is no monster in Loch Ness. Except you can. You can show how much

>> food flows into and out of the loch, and when you do the calculations 
>> you'll see that there's just not enough for it to eat.
>>
>> The truth is that a lot of atheist arguments boil down to what I call
the 
>> "writing on the Moon" argument. If God exists, surely He'd make it 
>> completely untenable to hold the position that He doesn't exist. To an 
>> extent that's a legitimate argument, but a riposte can be "if there was

>> no God surely we'd have made belief in Him totally untenable by now".
The 
>> fact is that all religions except liberal Christianity and (a special 
>> case) Reform Judaism are untenable, by intellectuals. There's nothing 
>> about religion that protects it from the razor of science or
scholar****p. 
>> Young Earth Biblical literalism can be shot down quite easily, for 
>> example. But St Augustine did that back in the 5th century.
>>
>> So what atheists have got to do is chip away at the credibility of 
>> Christianity. Not, note, of "theism". Liberal Christianity, and the 
>> special case of Reform Judaism, are the only opponents still in the
ring. 
>> Christinas have to chip away at atheist credibility. It's slow, 
>> unsatisyfing, but it's the only way of conducting the debate, until God

>> does write those big letters on the Moon or some atheist really does
come 
>> up with something to discredit Christianity.
>>
>
> What I'd like to know is why the Christian God is so frightened of
showing 
> himself to people.  A god who hides cannot be a strong god - he should 
> come down from the clouds, turn off his invisibility option and actually

> start talking to people !!
Aren't you repeating the same argument godisimaginary.com presents in
point 
50?  Yes, you are actually.

If I may be so bold as to inquire, why didn't you read the web page 
containing the subject being discussed before you posted to a thread 
discussing this page?

I don't know why.  I really don't care why.  The question is, why do you 
believe I would or should know the answer to your question?
 




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CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.
"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 11:00:54 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-01 11:36:46 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:02:40 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-03-09 11:59:44 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-01 20:35:24 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 22:29:15 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 17:43:36 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:04:36 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:11:06 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 23:35:01 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:37:16 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-01 18:40:53 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 00:13:35 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:34:19 
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"Gordon L. Richard&q  2008-03-02 20:23:46 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 19:55:08 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2008-03-03 17:03:49 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-02 05:28:20 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:18:02 
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"Mary" <mary  2008-03-02 09:08:55 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:57:06 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:22 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:03:05 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:31:35 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2008-03-03 03:54:02 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-02 02:17:03 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 10:24:52 
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"John Smith" &l  2008-03-02 11:39:08 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:25:30 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:10:24 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 08:32:44 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-02 15:23:45 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-02 11:23:08 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-03-06 02:09:19 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-07 16:59:03 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 10:57:09 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-01 19:13:39 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-02 01:04:52 
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"BIll M" <wm  2008-03-03 19:42:01 
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"TomP" <th_o  2008-03-11 16:40:01 
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"Malcolm McLean"  2008-03-01 21:16:19 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 05:06:11 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-01 19:28:34 
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"Mike Painter"   2008-03-01 17:57:46 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-02 11:32:16 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-02 15:23:52 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-03 13:11:04 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 01:41:19 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Pastor Frank"   2008-03-05 05:35:56 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mike Painter"   2008-03-05 09:12:57 
Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS OF ATHEIST DEFINITION EXIS
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-03-06 09:53:52 

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