Re: BASIC LOGIC THERE IS NO GOD

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>>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:48:28 -0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>Basic evidence that no Gods exist except in peoples imaginations.
>>>>>>There are literally hundreds of different God beliefs.
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>>>>> Well, maybe you believe your left big toe is your god.  Go for it.
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>>>> as usual, nothing duke says makes sense
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>>>>> duke, brainwashed christian nutcase
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>>>    So what are you blowjob? An atheist nutcase?
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>> Why are you Christians so nasty and why do you never supply objective 
>> verifiable evidence to sup****t your beleifs and claims???
>    Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested
in
> Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
> therefore know our God and have seen Him through Jesus Christ, our Lord
> and Saviour. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
>    Atheists don't know our God and therefore can't see manifestations of
> love and care in human beings, such as in Jesus Christ. (Jesus in John 
> 3:3)

THI IS A LOVING AND CARRING GOD??? COME ON!



In your Gods world; Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
Wars, 
Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body malfunctions
and 
starvation exist that torture both man and animals.  There are 12,000 
known 
ailments and diseases that torture and kill man. A similar number torture 
and plaque the rest of the animal kingdom. Thousands of destructive
diseases 
affect the plant kingdom. Why would an all powerful god create all these 
diseases to torture and kill his creations??? These catastrophes affect 
people of ALL religious beliefs including TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN and 
ANIMALS!



Just one small example of ridiculous ailments is a parasitic worm in West 
Africa that bores through the eyes of innocent children and causes total 
blindness for the rest of their lives. Is this evidence of a caring and 
loving creator or any competent creator for that matter???



Why would any all powerful competent god permit totally innocent children
to 
die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain,

deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and others
with 
super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others pauper poor? 
Why does he permit 2,000,000 totally innocent children to suffer and die
of 
starvation each year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate 
into a miserable and devastating old age?



Why would god create a gene for vitamin C synthesis in most mammals, but
stop it working in humans and chimps?

Why would god create a lizard that reproduces by parthenogenesis, and
still give it the need to attempt copulation?

Why would god create birds without the power of flight, yet give them
wings they cannot use?

Why would god create cave-dwelling creatures that live in complete
darkness, yet give them eyes that don't work?



If an all powerful god created this, why did he make so many horrible 
mistakes and create this huge multitude of imperfections, pain and 
suffering???

Why would any all powerful god create things like sharks, jelly fish, 
octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, poisonous s****s, stinging and
poisonous 
insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why would he create animals (including
man) 
that need to kill and eat other animals to survive?



IF there is an after life and a 'heaven' why does this all powerful, all 
caring and all loving god not permit those in his heaven to communicate
the 
wonders of his heaven to their living children, relatives and friends? Why

all the secrecy and confusion? Unproven claims by the mentally deranged
and 
persons with selfish motives are not objective verifiable evidence - they 
are just unsubstantiated silly OPINIONS.



Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;



Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?



These god tales make no more sense than Aesop's Fables, the Harry Potter 
stories, the Wizard of Oz, or Santa Claus.



The objective evidence is that gods did not create man but quite the 
opposite; man created gods!



Where is ANY objective verifiable evidence that  ANY Gods actually exist?