Re: CLEAR INFORMATION PROVING NO GODS.

"Malcolm McLean" <regniztar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "TomP" <th_o_m_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>  If you believe there is a point or are points I did not read that 
>> actually does provide "irrevocable evidence/facts that proves no real 
>> Gods exist," please identify this point or these points.
>>
> That's unreasonable.
> A pat answer is that you can't prove a negative. So you cannot show that

> there is no monster in Loch Ness. Except you can. You can show how much 
> food flows into and out of the loch, and when you do the calculations 
> you'll see that there's just not enough for it to eat.
>
> The truth is that a lot of atheist arguments boil down to what I call
the 
> "writing on the Moon" argument. If God exists, surely He'd make it 
> completely untenable to hold the position that He doesn't exist. To an 
> extent that's a legitimate argument, but a riposte can be "if there was
no 
> God surely we'd have made belief in Him totally untenable by now". The 
> fact is that all religions except liberal Christianity and (a special 
> case) Reform Judaism are untenable, by intellectuals. There's nothing 
> about religion that protects it from the razor of science or
scholar****p. 
> Young Earth Biblical literalism can be shot down quite easily, for 
> example. But St Augustine did that back in the 5th century.
>
> So what atheists have got to do is chip away at the credibility of 
> Christianity. Not, note, of "theism". Liberal Christianity, and the 
> special case of Reform Judaism, are the only opponents still in the
ring. 
> Christinas have to chip away at atheist credibility. It's slow, 
> unsatisyfing, but it's the only way of conducting the debate, until God 
> does write those big letters on the Moon or some atheist really does
come 
> up with something to discredit Christianity.
>

What I'd like to know is why the Christian God is so frightened of showing

himself to people.  A god who hides cannot be a strong god - he should
come 
down from the clouds, turn off his invisibility option and actually start 
talking to people !!