On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:15 -0800 (PST), Richo
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>On Feb 21, 1:34 am, Dubh Ghall <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:04:07 -0800, DanielSan
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>> <danielsan1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >Pastor Frank said the following on 2/18/2008 6:09 PM:
>> >> "DanielSan" <danielsan1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> Pastor Frank said the following on 2/13/2008 6:11 PM:
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>> >Sorry, but that's not how it works. I am not operating on belief or
>> >faith that "there ain't no gods".
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>> >> True believers will not
>> >> be swayed in their beliefs AKA disbeliefs by museums full of
existing gods,
>> >> many of them superb pieces of ancient art.
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>> >What "existing gods"?
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>> Frank thinks that statues and fetishes, are gods.
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>I actually agree with him.
>
>A god is:
>god n. (1) Superhuman being wor****ped as having
>power over nature and human fortunes, deity
>(2) Image, animal, or other object, wor****ped as
>symbolyzing, being the visible habitation of, or
>itself possessing, divine power; an idol.
>...
>[Concise Oxford Dictionary 1976]
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> From Webster's:
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> God \God\ (g[o^]d), n. [AS. god; akin to OS. & D. god, OHG. got,
> G. gott, Icel. gu[eth], go[eth], Sw. & Dan. gud, Goth. gup,
> prob. orig. a p. p. from a root appearing in Skr. h[=u], p.
> p. h[=u]ta, to call upon, invoke, implore. [root]30. Cf.
> {Goodbye}, {Gospel}, {Gossip}.]
> 1. A being conceived of as possessing supernatural power, and
> to be propitiated by sacrifice, wor****p, etc.; a divinity;
> a deity; an object of wor****p; an idol.
>
>So if someone believes that the statue represents or contains the
>spirit of his or her deity then it is their god.
>And it exists.
>
>It isnt *my* god and never will be.
>I am a godless infidel unbeliever and heretic.
>I don't care that some gods actually exist - I will never be a
>believer.
>
>Cheers, Mark.
As a child, I was taught that statues, idols, fetishes, etc, were
representations of gods, and no matter how much you believed in them,
they were still only representations.
It would appear that this simple lesson has yet to reach this far.
There seems to me to be some conflation in your dictionary's
definitions, confusing the object with it;s representation.
Rather like saying that because a thing looks like something, then it
is that thing, i.e, a picture of model of a bird, is a bird.
But it isn't: is it?
So why is a statue, a god?
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