"Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On 2008-02-12 17:24:50 +0000, "BIll M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>
>>
>> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:2008021219551475249-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On 2008-02-12 19:27:50 +0000, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:2008021216203850073-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> On 2008-02-12 16:01:28 +0000, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:6Y_rj.29689$1f.2282@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He created Adam from dirt and Eve from Adam's rib.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then he 'supposedly' created Jesus, a god on earth, by
impregnating
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>> and having Jesus live a relatively normal childhood. He was a
>>>>>>>> carpenter
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> his adulthood until he was 30.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then for one, two or three years (depending on which Bible you
wish
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> believe)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he lectured to a very small ****tion of the world population about
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> wishes and commands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why did he place himself on earth in such an irrational fa****on?
>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>> didn't he just follow Adam's simple direct process of coming to
>>>>>>>> earth?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He apparently was incapable of reproducing his teaching in any
>>>>>>>> permanent
>>>>>>>> form as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there are no original records of his existence or teaching. All
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> exists are copies of copies by other men of totally unknown
>>>>>>>> veracity
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> accuracy. There are NO originals - just copies of unknown origin.
>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> we know what the originals said?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would an all powerful God creator provide his creations with
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> inaccurate and questionable instructions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The whole God/Jesus story is about as believable as Aesop's
Fables.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have two possiblilities here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Jesus and God are COMPLETE morons,
>>>>>>> 2. God does not exist and either Jesus did not exist or was just
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> bloke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or the other - and more likely option - that Bill's post is simply
>>>>>> tendentious rivel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What sepecifically did he say that was wrong?
>>>>>
>>>> oh nothing. It's just that the religious nutcases resort to comments
>>>> like
>>>> that when they haven't got anything intelligent to say to back up
their
>>>> silly "invisible sky entity" arguments.
>>>
>>> His question is tendentious. His use of the word 'supposedly' is
>>> tendentious. It is intended to suggest disinterested statement of fact
>>> but
>>> actually betrays a belief regarding the truth of those statements.
>>
>> In your usup****ted opinion.
>>
>> Engaging in sophistic nonsense is only evidence of your lack of true
>> knowledge.
>
> OK Bill, explain to us.
> Why do you think God would NOT provide his creation with questionable
> instructions?
Because he is described as loving his creations and of being all wise.
You
are suggesting that he would mislead people.
> In what way is the birth of Christ irrational?
It is obviously irrational. He dies to pay a debt owed to god (himself).
That is laughable.
> What evidence do you have that Christ was incapable of putting his
> teachings in a permanent form?
What evidence do you have that he did. Obviously an all powerful god
could
have done it.
> Why do you suppose the length of his ministry to be an issue?
Why do you suppose the Bible is contradictory about it?
> Why do you suppose the size of his audiences to be an issue?
Why do you suppose the great majority of mankind was left out?
> What has Adam's rib got to do with your argument?
An example of nonsense in the Bible perhaps.
> How many do***ents other than Biblical books exist from that period
Quite a few actually, yet no contem****ary do***ent mentions Jesus.
> that are NOT copies of copies?
How many mention Jesus?
> Where in the Bible does it say Jesus was a carpenter?
Who cares?
> If Jesus was a carpenter, why is this an issue?
Is it? Evidence that he existed at all would be nice. Have any?
> Do you understand why the age of 30 is significant?
>
Do you understand what evasion means? Instead of answering the challenge
you tap dance.
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