Mary wrote:
> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:2008021222055116807-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On 2008-02-12 21:19:08 +0000, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> >
> >>
> >> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:200802122110338930-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On 2008-02-12 20:50:38 +0000, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>> news:2008021219551475249-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> On 2008-02-12 19:27:50 +0000, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:47b1f16e$0$2088$edfadb0f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Andrew" <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
> >>>>>>> news:2008021216203850073-thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>> On 2008-02-12 16:01:28 +0000, "Mary" <mary123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
said:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:6Y_rj.29689$1f.2282@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> He created Adam from dirt and Eve from Adam's rib.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Then he 'supposedly' created Jesus, a god on earth, by
> >>>>>>>>>> impregnating
> >>>>>>>>>> Mary
> >>>>>>>>>> and having Jesus live a relatively normal childhood. He was a
> >>>>>>>>>> carpenter
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> his adulthood until he was 30.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Then for one, two or three years (depending on which Bible
you
> >>>>>>>>>> wish
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> believe)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> he lectured to a very small ****tion of the world population
about
> >>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>> wishes and commands.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why did he place himself on earth in such an irrational
fa****on?
> >>>>>>>>>> Why
> >>>>>>>>>> didn't he just follow Adam's simple direct process of coming
to
> >>>>>>>>>> earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> He apparently was incapable of reproducing his teaching in
any
> >>>>>>>>>> permanent
> >>>>>>>>>> form as
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> there are no original records of his existence or teaching.
All
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> exists are copies of copies by other men of totally unknown
> >>>>>>>>>> veracity
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> accuracy. There are NO originals - just copies of unknown
origin.
> >>>>>>>>>> How
> >>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>> we know what the originals said?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why would an all powerful God creator provide his creations
with
> >>>>>>>>>> such
> >>>>>>>>>> inaccurate and questionable instructions?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The whole God/Jesus story is about as believable as Aesop's
> >>>>>>>>>> Fables.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We have two possiblilities here:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Jesus and God are COMPLETE morons,
> >>>>>>>>> 2. God does not exist and either Jesus did not exist or was
just
> >>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>> bloke.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or the other - and more likely option - that Bill's post is
simply
> >>>>>>>> tendentious rivel.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What sepecifically did he say that was wrong?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> oh nothing. It's just that the religious nutcases resort to
comments
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>> that when they haven't got anything intelligent to say to back up
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>> silly "invisible sky entity" arguments.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> His question is tendentious. His use of the word 'supposedly' is
> >>>>> tendentious. It is intended to suggest disinterested statement of
fact
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> actually betrays a belief regarding the truth of those statements.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gee Andrew, did you learn a new word today? You have used
'tendentious'
> >>>> three times within two posts. Are you attempting to impress
someone? by
> >>>> the
> >>>> way, why don't you give me a definition of 'rivel' since you used
it
> >>>> after
> >>>> you used 'tendentious'. I am not familiar with that word :-).
> >>>
> >>> I like to engage in novalinguistication whenever I can, obviously.
> >>> 'Rivel'
> >>> are the collected dried droppings of the cave -dwelling Gazolo bird,
> >>> pulped and allowed to ferment by the local tribes for use in their
> >>> prognosticatory rituals and ceremonies. Sorry - thought everyone
knew
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can you think of a word for "irrational belief in an invisible sky
> >> entity" ?
> >
> > Take your pick - "Wisdom", "Truth", "Insight", "Intelligence" (You
walked
> > into that one!)
> >
>
> What exactly have I walked into ? .... are you telling me it is wise
to
> believe in an entity which has his son sacrificed for our sins,
apparently
> loves us? tells us he created man on the 6th day when carbon dating,
> dinosaurs, evolution, expanding universe prove otherwise, tells people
to
> sacrifice their sons on hilltops, tells people "thou shalt not kill and
> thou shalt not steal" but then orders the same people to wipe out a
whole
> tribe and steal their land, floods the whole world. Please tell me
exactly
> what I have just walked into.
You have walked into a bitter bigot Mary
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