Andrew wrote:
> On 2008-02-12 01:59:02 +0000, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
said:
>
> >
> >
> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-02-11 16:02:11 +0000, "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> He created Adam from dirt and Eve from Adam's rib.
> >>
> >> Myth Bill. Do TRY to understand.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Then he 'supposedly' created Jesus, a god on earth, by impregnating
Mary and
> >>> having Jesus live a relatively normal childhood. He was a carpenter
in his
> >>> adulthood until he was 30.
> >>
> >> Actually the Bible nowhere says that Jesus ever followed Joseph's
trade.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then for one, two or three years (depending on which Bible you wish
to
> >>> believe)
> >>>
> >>> he lectured to a very small ****tion of the world population about
his wishes
> >>> and commands.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why did he place himself on earth in such an irrational fa****on? Why
didn't
> >>> he just follow Adam's simple direct process of coming to earth?
> >>
> >> I hadn't realised that being born was all that irrational. Come on
Bill
> >> - you must have done it too.;
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> He apparently was incapable
> >>
> >> or perhaps didn't
> >>
> >>> of reproducing his teaching in any permanent
> >>> form as
> >>>
> >>> there are no original records of his existence or teaching. All that
exists
> >>> are copies of copies by other men of totally unknown veracity and
accuracy.
> >>> There are NO originals - just copies of unknown origin. How can we
know
> >>> what the originals said?
> >>
> >> We can't. But what we have works for us.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why would an all powerful God creator provide his creations with
such
> >>> inaccurate
> >>
> >> err... Bill. If we don't know what the originals said, how do we know
> >> that what we have is inaccurate?
> >>
> >>> and questionable instructions?
> >>
> >> Because God likes open-minded questioning folks.
> >
> > There it is again - the dead giveaway.
> >
> > Here's a puny little human telling other humans what his god likes, a
god the
> > idiots think created the entire universe and needs puny little men to
speak for
> > it. If you god existed birdbrain it would speak for itself.
>
> I hadn't realised that atheism encourages human beings to have such a
> poor view of themselves. That's right - we're "puny", we're "little".
> Why not go for "insignificant" while you're at it? Now what was that
> you were saying recently about Bertrand Russell, religion and
> self-respect? And more to the point, Bill asked a question - why should
> I not answer it as best I can
>
> > [I suppose now we will get another childish response like 'it does']
> >
> > go away and get an education
> >
> >> And whatever the cae,
> >> those instructions have worked for billions of people for thousands
of
> >> years, so they can't be doing all that badly.
> >
> > Just a few years ago billions in China thought Mau Tse Tung was a god,
>
> Did they??? I was under the impression that Communist China was atheist
> - and what a fine body of work your co-religionists did over there.
He was revered as a god is revered and no atheists helped the Red Guards
they did
all the damage themselves.
Times are a changing - soon China will overtake the USA as the world's
most powerful
and prosperous nation but even then only a very small minority will be
Christian
although the following is growing right now as China opens up. They will
not
appoint any senior Bishop designated by Rome, they appoint their own,
unthinkable
fifteen years ago.
China is not a problem in the religious sense, if they go to war using
nuclear
weapons it will not be in the name of any gods it will be in the name of
self
defense. we can leave it to Islamists and Christians to start a religious
war - a
kind of extension of The Crusades , religions are so old fa****oned and out
of date -
no wonder there are more and more atheists these days.
>
>
> > but they
> > were wrong. Try buying one of his Little Red Books today. And your
bible will
> > go the same way eventually, as common sense and logic takes over from
mythology
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The whole God/Jesus story is about as believable as Aesop's Fables.
> >>
> >> So you say Bill. Is this a good time for me to type "opinion" in
> >> capital letters?
> >
> > Of course you could try to prove he is wrong. but you know you can't
so you
> > won't
>
> You can't prove an opinion that does not have facts to back it up right
> or wrong. It's an OPINION. Look the word up
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