"Michael" <newsuser3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.02.05.04.20.05.755914@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:25:26 -0500, Bill M wrote:
>
>>
>> I challenge god believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence
>> that
>> their god actually exists except in their over active imaginations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who will accept the challenge???
>
> I challenge you to give me a pure gold coin made of silver. I know that
> you cannot do it, because the definition of pure gold coin excludes
making
> it from silver.
>
> Likewise, the definition of God, or any that I have encountered,
preclude
> "objective, verifiable evidence".
>
> In fact, you cannot even produce objective, verifiable evidence that G.
> Bush is the President of the United States. Oh, you can produce
newspaper
> re****ts, you might even produce the man himself should it happen that he
> is at your beck and call. But how will I know this man is indeed the
> president? I cannot. A two million man army at his command is
> persuasive, but of course, he would have to present all two million of
> them to me to REALLY convince me.
>
> Suppose the FBI comes calling and show you their identification. How
can
> you prove it is genuine FBI identification? You cannot; at best you can
> see that it resembles the first one you ever saw. If the FBI published
> specifications so as to enable verification, it would also enable
> counterfeit.
>
> So, I do not accept your stupid challenge, and I hope you do not accept
my
> equally stupid challenge to produce a gold coin made out of silver.
>
> Perhaps you are thinking that someone WANTS to convince you of something
> that you have set up to be impossible. If God wishes it, then it will
> happen; it is not for anyone else to make happen. That is the way it is
> with gods. They do what they want, and they do not do what they do not
> want to do.
translaton: there is NO god.


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