"Michael" <newsuser3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.02.05.04.20.05.755914@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:25:26 -0500, Bill M wrote:
>
>>
>> I challenge god believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence
>> that
>> their god actually exists except in their over active imaginations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who will accept the challenge???
>
> I challenge you to give me a pure gold coin made of silver. I know that
> you cannot do it, because the definition of pure gold coin excludes
making
> it from silver.
>
> Likewise, the definition of God, or any that I have encountered,
preclude
> "objective, verifiable evidence".
>
> In fact, you cannot even produce objective, verifiable evidence that G.
> Bush is the President of the United States. Oh, you can produce
newspaper
> re****ts, you might even produce the man himself should it happen that he
> is at your beck and call. But how will I know this man is indeed the
> president? I cannot. A two million man army at his command is
> persuasive, but of course, he would have to present all two million of
> them to me to REALLY convince me.
>
> Suppose the FBI comes calling and show you their identification. How
can
> you prove it is genuine FBI identification? You cannot; at best you can
> see that it resembles the first one you ever saw. If the FBI published
> specifications so as to enable verification, it would also enable
> counterfeit.
>
> So, I do not accept your stupid challenge, and I hope you do not accept
my
> equally stupid challenge to produce a gold coin made out of silver.
>
> Perhaps you are thinking that someone WANTS to convince you of something
> that you have set up to be impossible. If God wishes it, then it will
> happen; it is not for anyone else to make happen. That is the way it is
> with gods. They do what they want, and they do not do what they do not
> want to do.
Setting aside your irrational, strawman, arguments;
it is for those idiots who make CLAIMS about the existence of "gawd" the
challenge is set.
Religious people make the claims ..... THEY have to provide sup****tive
evidence.
"If god wishes it" .........?
WHAT GOD?
You have not presented ANY valid, verifiable evidence that ANY god even
exists - so the statement "If god wishes" means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
If, as you say, god is unprovable ... then try, hard, and be smart enough
NOT to make any claims associated with something that cannot be sup****ted
even by its believers.
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