bob young wrote:
>
> Protagonist wrote:
>
>> bob young wrote:
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill M wrote:
>>>>> The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the
creations
>>>>> of man.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was
a REAL
>>>>> god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead
and
>>>>> confuse his flock?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone
and the
>>>>> Internet.
>>>> That's called the RF!
>>>> Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within
the
>>>> range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
>>>>
>>>> God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
>>>> Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting
device,
>>>> like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
>>>> No!
>>>> So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when
there
>>>> was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
>>>> JS
>>> He didn't. The story tellers that made a living telling entertaining
much needed
>>> yarns around the evening camp fires did all of the communicating.
>>>
>>> The stories were remembered and later written down.
>>>
>>> They had plenty of time - it went on like this for tens of thousands
of years
>>> until the yarns became instinctive to the extent modern man can
recognize them
>>> and still be made to feel incredulous.
>>>
>>> It's all in the mind.
>> Those people lived with nature lot more than you, civilized men!
>> So they felt it a lot more than any one else!
>> One can't even see the stars from a cities now days!
>> JS
>
> what was it 'they felt' ?
Go out camping for a week, than you'll find out.
Live the power boat,TV, stereo home!
JS
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would
he not
>>>>> announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all
the others
>>>>> are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective
evidence is
>>>>> that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic
fear of
>>>>> the finality of death.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
>>>>> exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are
not
>>>>> evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not
omnipotent.
>>>>> Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
>>>>> Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
>>>>> Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three
are
>>>>> founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific
knowledge
>>>>> and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in
MEN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention
of the
>>>>> printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered
and
>>>>> recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN.
Inspired
>>>>> by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by
MEN. What
>>>>> do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the
OPINION of
>>>>> errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish.
self
>>>>> promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious
texts are
>>>>> nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories
created by
>>>>> MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that
ANY of
>>>>> these ancient do***ents are the word of ANY God. The objective
EVIDENCE is
>>>>> they are purely myths and fables.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which
is the
>>>>> real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real
God
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are is a wealth of different religious do***ents that proclaim
the
>>>>> validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are just some of the religious texts and do***ents;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Baha'i Sacrid writtings
>>>>>
>>>>> Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bible - Christian religious do***ents - 18 English versions
alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
>>>>>
>>>>> The Analects - Confuscianism
>>>>>
>>>>> The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
>>>>>
>>>>> Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
>>>>>
>>>>> Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
>>>>>
>>>>> Qur'an - Islam
>>>>>
>>>>> Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
>>>>>
>>>>> Ta****h - Jewism
>>>>>
>>>>> Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
>>>>>
>>>>> Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
>>>>>
>>>>> Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true
one, if
>>>>> any, and which are fakes? None of these do***ents are any objective
>>>>> evidence. They are all do***ents written, hand copied, modified and
further
>>>>> copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal
and
>>>>> selfish motivations. All of these do***ents, except the Book of
Mormon, were
>>>>> hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention
of the
>>>>> printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or
accuracy of any
>>>>> of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of
inaccurate
>>>>> history, myth, folklore and legend.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient
men???
>>>>>
>>>>>
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