Re: A VERY IM****TANT QUESTION

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>>>>>>    Irrelevant!! Knowing where you come from etc. will not make you
a 
>>>>>> person fit for the Kingdom of God. Only repentance and practicing
to 
>>>>>> be loving and caring as Jesus commanded, will.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question of where we come from and we go appears very relevant
to 
>>>>> people when you count the thousands of religions the have come and 
>>>>> gone over the millennia, why invest time in any of these myths when
a 
>>>>> person could be happily involved with family or helping others to
give 
>>>>> expression to any altruistic feelings they may have.
>>>>
>>>>    "Altruitic feelings someone MAY have" doesn't abount to world
peace 
>>>> nor to prevent hunger and destitution. That is why Christ tells us, 
>>>> that loving and caring, ...to the death if need be, is the only life 
>>>> ..and death worth having.
>>>>
>>>>> My pets are fast little critters and I would not leave my dinner 
>>>>> unattended so they could steal from it and then chastise them for
the 
>>>>> rest of their lives so what's with God and his knowledge fruit tree,

>>>>> is the deity insecure and needs to chastise or just irresponsible.
If 
>>>>> he took on human form would he be allowed to adopt children given
his 
>>>>> past record?
>>>>>
>>>>    Wrong analogy. Pets can't love and care for others to the death, 
>>>> ...if need be, nor can they understand and be opinionated and 
>>>> judgmental about good and evil, which is the "fruit" Adam and Eve
ate. 
>>>> See below
>>>
>>> So god was not content with an Eden set up so that his human creations

>>> did not have this knowledge, then he set up a tree that provided fruit

>>> rich in nootropics or something so that they could eat from it while
in 
>>> their innocent pre-sapient state and so change them into a condition 
>>> where he could chastise them to his hearts content.
>>> That's one very, very strange sounding deity, smacks of animal 
>>> experimentation to me. Wonder if Ivan Pavlov was inspired by this
story?
>>>
>>    Are you against free choice, to either listen to your Father which
is 
>> in heaven or ignore Him? Perhaps you want us all be cut from the same 
>> cookie mould, little robots who can only act according to their 
>> programming?
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> You mean like the people who are dunked in a font, cir***cised or go 
> through some ritual shortly after birth to initiate them into belief 
> systems that many will never question for the rest of their lives due to

> them being taught it is true from their first breath to the grave?
> It does not matter what you call the god the systems pretty much the
same 
> for them all.
>
    Only and atheists would consider cutting off a foreskin equals being a

programmed robot.  You are losing your mind, and it's all the fault of 
atheism. 



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