Re: A VERY IM****TANT QUESTION

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>>>>> An invisible guy
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>    Your "invisible guy" god doesn't exist. Our Christian "God is
love" 
>>>> (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
>>>> Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary.
We 
>>>> therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
>>>
>>> Millions of people have done similar before and since, The Alamo was 
>>> littered with the bodies of people who laid their lives down some 170 
>>> years ago and it is pretty certain if any one of those people was 
>>> omnipotent they would have set things up differently.
>>> Martyrdom is nothing new or all that special, especially when someone 
>>> sets the stage for their own martyrdom, then does not even have the 
>>> common decency to stay dead so that thier sacrafice at least appears
to 
>>> reflect some kind of loss.
>>> If Jesus was to make the sacrafice of donating a kidney to you would
he 
>>> want it back at the end of the month?
>>
>>    You failed to give your conclusion. Are you saying that lying down 
>> one's life for others after the example of Christ is commendable or 
>> foolish? If you say it's foolish then you just prove how atheism makes 
>> people cynical and paranoid, if not hopeless and despairing.
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> What I am saying in a nutshell is:
> 1. A human that lays down his or her life for others is making a true 
> permanent sacrifice be it a soldier at war or a mother that jumps in
front 
> of an oncoming car to push her child out of the way.
>
> 2. A supposedly immortal being that paradise laying down his/her/its
life 
> then appears a couple of days later hail and hearty, walking round, 
> chatting and having lunch with people like nothing had happened is
taking 
> the piddle.
> Cause its immortal Frank, in other words it cannot die, its having a
laugh 
> at the people that can.
> The logic is simple.
>
    Our Christian "God is love"  and love dies and resurrects all the
time. 
if you don't know that you don't know love and that's why you don't know
our 
God. See below

Pastor Frank

    1Jn:4:8: He that LOVETH not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
    1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the LOVE that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in LOVE dwelleth in God, and God in him.



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