Re: A VERY IM****TANT QUESTION

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>>>>>    Irrelevant!! Knowing where you come from etc. will not make you a

>>>>> person fit for the Kingdom of God. Only repentance and practicing to

>>>>> be loving and caring as Jesus commanded, will.
>>>>
>>>> The question of where we come from and we go appears very relevant to

>>>> people when you count the thousands of religions the have come and
gone 
>>>> over the millennia, why invest time in any of these myths when a
person 
>>>> could be happily involved with family or helping others to give 
>>>> expression to any altruistic feelings they may have.
>>>
>>>    "Altruitic feelings someone MAY have" doesn't abount to world peace

>>> nor to prevent hunger and destitution. That is why Christ tells us,
that 
>>> loving and caring, ...to the death if need be, is the only life ..and 
>>> death worth having.
>>>
>>>> My pets are fast little critters and I would not leave my dinner 
>>>> unattended so they could steal from it and then chastise them for the

>>>> rest of their lives so what's with God and his knowledge fruit tree,
is 
>>>> the deity insecure and needs to chastise or just irresponsible. If he

>>>> took on human form would he be allowed to adopt children given his
past 
>>>> record?
>>>>
>>>    Wrong analogy. Pets can't love and care for others to the death, 
>>> ...if need be, nor can they understand and be opinionated and
judgmental 
>>> about good and evil, which is the "fruit" Adam and Eve ate. See below
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>> So god was not content with an Eden set up so that his human creations 
>> did not have this knowledge, then he set up a tree that provided fruit 
>> rich in nootropics or something so that they could eat from it while in

>> their innocent pre-sapient state and so change them into a condition 
>> where he could chastise them to his hearts content.
>> That's one very, very strange sounding deity, smacks of animal 
>> experimentation to me. Wonder if Ivan Pavlov was inspired by this
story?
>>
>    Are you against free choice, to either listen to your Father which is

> in heaven or ignore Him? Perhaps you want us all be cut from the same 
> cookie mould, little robots who can only act according to their 
> programming?


You mean like the people who are dunked in a font, cir***cised or go
through 
some ritual shortly after birth to initiate them into belief systems that 
many will never question for the rest of their lives due to them being 
taught it is true from their first breath to the grave?

It does not matter what you call the god the systems pretty much the same 
for them all.