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> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>
>> Pmb wrote:
>>
>>> "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> > "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> >> Bill M wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There are hundreds of different Gods and different religious
>>> >>> beliefs.
>>> >>> Which
>>> >>> one is real and which are fakes???
>>> >>
>>> >> I know the answer to that one.
>>> >>
>>> >>> How does any religionist know he is following the correct religion
>>> >>> and a
>>> >>> real God?
>>>
>>> The answer depends on the particular person's beliefs and how they
came
>>> to
>>> their beliefs.
>>
>> He uses brains, common sense and logic and discovers that all gods are
>> invented
>> by man,
>
> Nope. It is impossible to arrive at that conclusion by logic and/or
common
> sense. And by "common sense" I'm not refering to your *opinion* of what
> common sense is, I'm referring to what is ratrionally considered by the
> majority of all people to be common sense. I'd wager that your "common
> sense" is based on presumptions of that which you intend to prove and
thus
> you'd be using cirgular logic.
>
> That conclusion cannot be arrived at through logic. That fact is so well
> known that any well educated scientist/philosopher will tell you that.
As
> Richard Feynman (One of this centuries greatest physicist) said in his
> book "The Meaning of if All," page 36
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> The thrid possibility of explanation of the phenomena is that the young
> man perhaps doesn't understand science correctly, that science cannot
> disprove God and that a belief in science and religion is consistent. I
> agree that science cannot disprove the existance of God. I absolutely
> agree. I also agree that a belief in science and religion is consistent.
I
> know many scientists who believe in God.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> The first two possibilities are very closely related to this one. I can
> scan the relavent pages and make them avaible online so the reader can
see
> what the context is from which this quote is taken from.
>
> But by all means please do so, i.e. prove that "He uses brains, common
> sense and logic and discovers that all gods are invented by man." Again,
> please do not use any assumptions of yours since they most likely will
be
> designed so that you'd arrive at the answer you seek and end up being
> circular logic. If you make a postulate then explain why you believe
that
> postulate holds under any and all conditions.
>
> Pete
Bob - Please disregard any question I posed to you. I've read some of your
other posts in this forum and I have a rule whereby I don't converse with
people who post so many insults against those people who disagree with
them.
You can continue to respond to my comments but note that you will be
wasting
your time and will thus be writing in vain since you are now being added
to
my "block sender" list.
Have a good life
Pete
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