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skyeyes <skyeyes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> On Dec 6, 5:44 am, "rjbjr" <rjburn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > "Bill M" <wm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >
> > news:z%C5j.19912$rc2.12486@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > There are hundreds of different Gods and different religious
beliefs.
> > > Which one is real and which are fakes???
> > > How does any religionist know he is following the correct religion
and a
> > > real God?
> > > What objective verifiable evidence do they have that their religion
and
> > > God is the correct and real one???
> >
> > Dear Bill,
> > I've given you a number of objective, verifyable ways of experimenting
for
> > yourself so you can find the real God.
>
> Well, you haven't given them to *me*, so why don't you repost them
> here? And please bear in mind that I know what the words "objective"
> and "verifyable" mean.
>
> By the way, I'm an ex-born-again christian, so don't try to give me
> any crap about reading the bible, okay? I'd wager I've read it
> through more times than you have.
>
> > Evidently, you aren't willing to do
> > the work necessary. You simply repost the same question over and
over.
> >
> > I have another arguement you might consider.
> >
> > Make the assumption that there is no God.
> > What does that imply?
>
> That the universe is a natural phenomenon.
> > That implies that in the only universe you can possibly experience,
YOU are
> > the most intelligent assemblage of matter that has ever "evolved" from
the
> > primordial slime.
>
> Dunno about that. Dolphins are so smart it's ****ing *scary*.
> Unfortunately, they don't have opposable thumbs or live on land, so
> it's hard to draw parallels between dolphin culture and human culture,
> but there you are.
Somewhere in her book "Microcosmos", noted biologist Lynn
Marguilis speculates that if things had been just a bit
different, raccoons might have interstellar travel by now.
For those of us who actually had raccoons, no other thought
could possibly be more terrifying.
-- cary
>
> And *please* stop conflating abiogenesis with evolution, 'kay?
> Evolution didn't happen until after life came about. It doesn't
> address *how* it came about.
>
> > Won't you agree that is a scary thought? If that is correct, we need
to
> > abandon all hope.
>
> Why do you find that scary? I think it's *lovely*. I feel very
> connected to this planet, my home, and it's a comfort to know that I'm
> related to all the other life-forms on it. Whereas *you* and those of
> your ilk are constantly pining for heaven and repudiating the earth.
> Not only do I not find your orientation attractive, I find it obscene
> and criminal.
>
> If *you* are right, then the entire universe and all other life-forms
> in it are nothing but stage dressing, there to facilitate the cosmic
> morality play between god and man. That would be not only scary, but
> a profligate, immoral waste.
>
> So, I'm waiting. I'm just a-quiver at the notion that you've got
> "objective" and "verifyable" evidence that a god - any god - actually
> exists. Have at it, kiddo.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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