On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:31:13 -0500, in alt.atheism
James <bireda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>Free Lunch <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>Re: DOES ANY GOD EXIST?
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>>On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:45:17 -0600, in alt.atheism
>>duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:24:13 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>>>>There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY
gods.
>>>
>>>Sure there is. You just prefer to profess that you know better, and I
disagree
>>>with you.
>>
>>You keep asserting it, but never offer any reference to any of this
>>supposed evidence. You act like you don't have any, but are too pathetic
>>to admit it.
>>
>>By the way, Christian doctrine tells us that we do _not_ KNOW. Claiming
>>to KNOW is the Gnostic heresy.
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>Hello,
>
>On the contrary, the Bible wants us to KNOW who created all these
>things. Ge 1:1,
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>"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (NIV)
Don't argue with me, argue with the Church Fathers. Of course, the
stories of Genesis are _known_ not to be history or science. Their value
is in telling us about the relation****p between the People of Israel and
God.
>And for evidence, if you walk into a store, I doubt it if you assume
>those items were produced by mindless random chance over time and then
>collected, and put in that store. Rather they have the 'mark' of being
>designed by an intelligence. You just know that without having to
>verify that. (and by 'mark' I don't mean "made in China" or something)
Your comparison is meaningless and inaccurate.
>Well, if you look around the whole world, you also can see the 'mark'
>of a great designer and an intelligence. The Bible wants us to
>consider that evidence and reasons with us the following way: Heb 3:4,
Not even close.
>"For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is
>God." (NASB)
So you teach, but the facts prove your teaching is wrong. You need to
develop a more intelligent understanding of the Bible. The one you have
now mocks God.
>Sincerely, James
[Watchtower sales pitch deleted]
--
"Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel
to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy
Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should
take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in
which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh
it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis
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