"bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> MarkA wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:40:06 -0500, Pastor Frank wrote:
>> > "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > news:474F9A78.586A0387@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Pastor Frank wrote:
>> >>> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> news:eo03j.3611$vt2.1801@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> > "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> > news:474c7745$0$26052$88260bb3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> >> "MarkA" <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> >> news:pan.2007.11.25.01.36.41.152441@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> >>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:48:57 +0000, Bill M wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> There are thousands of different God beliefs.
>> >>> >>>> If there is a real God why would it permit his flock to be so
>> >>> >>>> terribly
>> >>> >>>> misled?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> It's pretty clear that IF God is going to send you to Hell for
>> >>> >>> not
>> >>> >>> believing in Him, as some of His followers claim, and IF said
God
>> >>> >>> does
>> >>> >>> not
>> >>> >>> provide clear and convincing evidence of His existence, THEN
said
>> >>> >>> God
>> >>> >>> cannot be considered "loving", "just", or "merciful." If God
is
>> >>> >>> not
>> >>> >>> loving/just/merciful, He may very well be cruel, petty, and
>> >>> >>> sadistic,
>> >>> >>> in which case He may send you to Hell even if you DO follow all
>> >>> >>> the "rules."
>> >>> >>> ERGO: live your life the way that seems right to YOU, and don't
>> >>> >>> worry
>> >>> >>> about what other people say God expects of you. If you hold
>> >>> >>> yourself
>> >>> >>> to
>> >>> >>> a
>> >>> >>> high standard of conduct, you will have nothing to be ashamed
of
>> >>> >>> in
>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >>> unlikely event that there really is a God who will judge you
when
>> >>> >>> you
>> >>> >>> die.
>> >>> >>> If God punishes people for doing their best, then He is a cruel
>> >>> >>> sadist,
>> >>> >>> in which case we are all ****ed anyway.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> It's not what YOU do that matters, it is what Christ did FOR
>> >>> >> YOU
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> matters and what saves you.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What did your imaginary Christ do for me???
>> >>> >
>> >>> It is the Father taking your guilt upon Himself.
>> >>
>> >> Primitive nonsense
>> >>
>> > Yea! In your world Bob, fathers never take any responsibility for
>> > their
>> > children upon themselves. The kid either swims or sinks. "Primitive
>> > nonsense" indeed!!!!
>>
>> So, how does the Father, God, absolve his own guilt for making us prone
>> to
>> sin, then puni****ng us for being sinners? He sounds like a real nut
>> case.
>
> Not surprising as the whole myth was made up by early middle eastern
goat
> and
> sheep herders
>
There you go again with your bigotry Bob!! Show that those "early
middle
eastern goat and
sheep herders" you look down on so much are devoid of wisdom and the
knowledge of what is right, proper and virtuous, or that those virtues can
only be the product of modern science.
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