"les_on_usenet" <delete-unread@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On 12 Nov 2007 03:49:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>>
>>And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of
it
>>reached to heaven; and behold the angels of God ascending and descending
>>on it.
>>[Genesis ch.28, v. 12]
>
> The facade of Bath Abbey ("where heaven and earth meets") in Somerset
> even has ladders carved on the West Front with angels descending and
> ascending:
>
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/england/bath-abbey-pictures/slides/abbey-front-2.htm
> Zoom in:
>
http://www.gigapan.org/viewGigapan.php?id=1080&window_height=855&window_width=1178
> Pastor Frank, it seems, knows better than the monks and Catholic
> hierarchy who build this church and who, presumably, believed their
> claimed god was 'up there' like a magic invisible pixie in the sky.
> LOL
> If the impastor Frank does not believe that there is a god up there
> then the RC's have a nice bonfire ready for heretics like him. (a
> metaphorical bonfire these days since they no longer have the power
> to do it any longer :-)
> Les Hellawell
> Greetings from
> YORK****RE - The White Rose County
>
Why would you bother to keep harping on the obvious, using
architectural
art as your justification? Not the "Catholic Church" originates
Christianity
but Jesus Christ, and His words are the only ones that matter. See below
what He had to say about His God.
Pastor Frank
"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:
The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of
whatever is of highest im****tance in our lives. I.e. In 2 Corinthians
4:4,
Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of this world." And again in
Philippians 3:19, Paul says there are people: "...whose God (theos) is
their
belly". Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that
wor****p him must wor****p him in spirit and in truth."
Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am
the
way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth
YE
KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM."
Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth
us."
Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am
in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I
speak
not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples,
if ye have love one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one
another,
as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay
down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as
certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
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