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Re: where we are similar

by "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 15, 2007 at 12:05 PM

"rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fhfi3r$9up$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> When a Believer, a follower of  Christ is faced with a crisis in his/her
> life; when he/she has just experience a grave disappointment or has just
> received news of  a tragedy, a job loss, a spouse  has  broken the
news.,"
> its over, I want a divorce". A teenage child is hanging on by a thread
to
> life due to a drug over-dose - the list goes on - they ask this similar
> question to the God they believe: "where are you! How could you let this
> happen. if you're an all powerful deity, then do something" We believers

> cry
> out, even shake our fist at an image of Christ, a cross or crucifix. " 
> and
> say,"God where are You - do something!" God understands this response.



Most of the world is ruled by illogical beliefs in life and death being 
governed by some mystical God for which there is NO actual evidence. The 
real world evidence does not sup****t any of the god beliefs. The objective

verifiable evidence indicates there are no loving god creators.



Why did a god create greed and selfishness which encourages man to steel, 
lie, subjugate and even kill other men?



This is supposedly to keep man in line and force him to follow god's
wishes 
and commands. This is characteristic of a dictator and slave master not
the 
characteristics of a loving god.



Why does this all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent 
designer, create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods,

Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases and 
serious body malfunctions? There are 12,000 known diseases that affect and

punish mankind indiscriminately. Why does he permit millions of both young

and old to starve to death or die of miserable diseases? Why punish
millions 
of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this horrible way?


Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent
children" 
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed 
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and 
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others 
pauper poor? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate into a 
miserable and devastating old age regardless of their religious
affiliation?



God supposedly created the world like it is to punish man for Adam and
Eve's 
'original sin'. Why punish people who had noting to do with early man? Why

does he also punish supposedly innocent animals with thousands of
diseases, 
birth defects, starvation and to be eaten alive by other animals?

Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks, 
jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, Wolves, poisonous s****s, 
stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this caring

benevolent god create animals (including man) that need to painfully kill 
and eat other animals to survive?



World War I claimed 9,000,000 lives of people of many religious faiths.

World II indiscriminately claimed over 20,000,000 lives of people of all 
ages and religious faiths, plus a vast destruction of property and more 
millions maimed for life.

The recent Asian Tsunami has claimed the lives of 200,000 men, women and 
children of all religious persuasions. Over 100,000 of these were totally 
INNOCENT children!

There were three major epidemics of the Bubonic Plaque - in the 6th, 14th.

and 17th centuries. The death toll was over 137 million men, women and 
totally innocent children.

The influenza of 1918-1919 killed at least 25 million men, women and 
innocent children indiscriminately.



Wars have continued over the centuries also indiscriminately killing and 
maiming millions of people.



Diseases like malaria, AIDS, tuberculosis, etc. maim and kill millions 
indiscriminately every year. More millions die of starvation and 
malnutrition.

These indiscriminately afflicted the young and old, atheists and those of 
all religious persuasions.



Meanwhile MAN, not god, has developed defenses and cures for hundreds of 
serious diseases. Man has learned to create shelter, heat and cooling, 
purify water, world wide electronic communications, power and
trans****tation 
systems including flying through the air.

Man has created a wonderful medical and drug system and improved housing
and 
food production. The result of MAN'S inventiveness has

DOUBLED the average life span.  None of this was created by any gods.


Perhaps this loving and caring god is actually a cruel, heartless, mean
and 
torturing tyrant. If he treats us so cruelly during life, why do you think

he will let us enjoy peace and eternal happiness in his Heaven? And why
does 
he keep all this a secret by preventing communication with our dead
parents, 
siblings and friends? (Or this god?)



There are thousands of religious and god beliefs but NO OJECTIVE
VERIFIABLE 
EVIDENCE for the actual EXISTENCE of ANY of these gods. ALL god beliefs
are 
based on the unsubstantiated 'opinions' of errant men.



If there is a god that created the Universe, he is obviously not an 
all-caring and benevolent god. Nor is he an "Intelligent Designer". The 
objective evidence is if there is a god creator, he has NO concern about
the 
welfare of the creatures on Earth.



The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;

that man created gods!



I challenge god believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence that

their god actually exists except in their over active imaginations.
 




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where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-14 14:27:21 
Re: where we are similar
panamfloyd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-11-14 12:56:30 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 03:59:38 
Re: where we are similar
"Denis Loubet"   2007-11-14 15:10:07 
Re: where we are similar
skyeyes <skyeyes@[EMAI  2007-11-14 13:14:58 
Re: where we are similar
cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-11-14 21:48:54 
Re: where we are similar
"Denis Loubet"   2007-11-14 17:09:59 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 05:14:21 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-17 23:14:02 
Re: where we are similar
Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-11-14 16:14:41 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 05:02:36 
Re: where we are similar
Neil Kelsey <neil_kels  2007-11-14 13:42:09 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-14 21:22:56 
Re: where we are similar
Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-11-15 03:29:09 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-15 00:42:06 
Re: where we are similar
"Chris H. Fleming&qu  2007-11-14 14:44:10 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-14 16:51:18 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:28:12 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-17 23:20:01 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-18 09:45:15 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-18 23:26:01 
Re: where we are similar
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-11-14 18:04:44 
Re: where we are similar
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-15 09:39:57 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:10:43 
Re: where we are similar
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th  2007-11-15 12:52:30 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:23:03 
Re: where we are similar
Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-11-15 03:16:47 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-15 23:44:04 
Re: where we are similar
"Thurisaz, Germanic   2007-11-15 07:20:08 
Re: where we are similar
Liz <ehuth1@[EMAIL PRO  2007-11-15 08:00:39 
Re: where we are similar
"Bill M" <wm  2007-11-15 12:05:03 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-15 13:42:01 
Re: where we are similar
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-16 08:26:11 
Re: where we are similar
cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-11-17 00:20:18 
Re: where we are similar
MarkA <toor@[EMAIL PRO  2007-11-15 18:19:43 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 10:22:14 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 14:03:28 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-18 16:44:11 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 19:35:13 

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