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Re: where we are similar

by skyeyes <skyeyes@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 14, 2007 at 01:14 PM

On Nov 14, 12:27 pm, "rockymt" <rock...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> When a Believer, a follower of  Christ is faced with a crisis in his/her
> life; when he/she has just experience a grave disappointment or has just
> received news of  a tragedy, a job loss, a spouse  has  broken the
news.,"
> its over, I want a divorce". A teenage child is hanging on by a thread
to
> life due to a drug over-dose - the list goes on - they ask this similar
> question to the God they believe: "where are you! How could you let this
> happen. if you're an all powerful deity, then do something" We believers
cry
> out, even shake our fist at an image of Christ, a cross or crucifix. " 
and
> say,"God where are You - do something!" God understands this response.
>
> This is the fallen condition all humanity is in. We believers and
> non-believers alike are in the same boat. We are like 'doubting Thomas'
> wanting answers, and saying to ourselves, "where, are the answers then.
Show
> me! Unless I have specific proof, I will not believe."
> Even Christians, who have trusted in God doubt, shake our fist and grow
> weary serving in this God that promises, " I will never leave you nor
> forsake you."
>
> We Christians have to keep going on despite the clouds of darkness and
doubt
> that gather about and brood over us. Yet we dare to keep the faith. We
get
> angry because we don't have answers, and in that moment of extreme
darkness
> in our journey of life, we fail, but somehow recover and believe in our
> heart God will walk us through this.
>
> Non -believers say,  "go on and show me. Where, where is this god." Show
me
> a thread of proof, show me the evidence. Where was your god when .... ":
so
> similar really.
> I sense  they  hurt almost the same as Christians do. They shake their
fist,
> say things in the heat of that moment. However they say it  to those
> Christians (Christ -bearers) who are being made more and more in the
image
> and likeness of God. It is like down deep in their heart they want to,
> really want to believe... without  demanding answers first. It's like
they
> hurt in just the same way as we Christians do
>
>  My conclusion:
>
> I am not here to here to pass judgement on anyone . Nor am I here to
convert
> anyone: that is not my job. I don't have the mind of a scientists or a
> naturalist. I am here to encourage  all unbelievers to ponder this
existence
> and
> maybe look  within ourselves.
> take care  .. you'll,
> rockymt

You are *so* misinformed.  Please try to wrap your head around what we
actually say, rather than what your fundy handlers tell you we think,
'kay?

I have had quite a few crises in my adult life - people I love have
died, I have gotten divorced, etc., etc., but *never* have I squalled
"WHY??"  That's because there *is* no "why."  People die.
Relation****ps fail.  Illnesses strike.  That's called "life."  There's
nothing causing these things to happen "for a reason."  Things have
always been like this, and they always *will* be like this.  Looking
for a supernatural cause is just emotional masturbation - and it's a
symptom of extreme ego.

Atheists are atheists because *there's no evidence that ANY god
exists.*  Including yours.  It has nothing to do with being "mad at
god," or disappointed, or hurt, or in any kind of psychic distress.
It's a matter of evidence - of which there is *none*.  It's not a
matter of "wanting" to believe or not believe.  It's more a matter of
inability to believe given the lack of evidence.  Some of us value our
intellectual integrity enough that we can't make ourselves believe in
things that aren't real.  You obviously don't have this problem.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
 




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where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-14 14:27:21 
Re: where we are similar
panamfloyd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-11-14 12:56:30 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 03:59:38 
Re: where we are similar
"Denis Loubet"   2007-11-14 15:10:07 
Re: where we are similar
skyeyes <skyeyes@[EMAI  2007-11-14 13:14:58 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-11-14 21:48:54 
Re: where we are similar
"Denis Loubet"   2007-11-14 17:09:59 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 05:14:21 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-17 23:14:02 
Re: where we are similar
Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-11-14 16:14:41 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 05:02:36 
Re: where we are similar
Neil Kelsey <neil_kels  2007-11-14 13:42:09 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-14 21:22:56 
Re: where we are similar
Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-11-15 03:29:09 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-15 00:42:06 
Re: where we are similar
"Chris H. Fleming&qu  2007-11-14 14:44:10 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-14 16:51:18 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:28:12 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-17 23:20:01 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-18 09:45:15 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-18 23:26:01 
Re: where we are similar
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-11-14 18:04:44 
Re: where we are similar
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-15 09:39:57 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:10:43 
Re: where we are similar
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th  2007-11-15 12:52:30 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-15 04:23:03 
Re: where we are similar
Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-11-15 03:16:47 
Re: where we are similar
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-15 23:44:04 
Re: where we are similar
"Thurisaz, Germanic   2007-11-15 07:20:08 
Re: where we are similar
Liz <ehuth1@[EMAIL PRO  2007-11-15 08:00:39 
Re: where we are similar
"Bill M" <wm  2007-11-15 12:05:03 
Re: where we are similar
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-15 13:42:01 
Re: where we are similar
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-16 08:26:11 
Re: where we are similar
cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-11-17 00:20:18 
Re: where we are similar
MarkA <toor@[EMAIL PRO  2007-11-15 18:19:43 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 10:22:14 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 14:03:28 
Re: where we are similar
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-18 16:44:11 
Re: where we are similar
"Mark K. Bilbo"  2007-11-18 19:35:13 

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