"Geoff" <gebobs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Pastor Frank wrote:
>> "Geoff" <gebobs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully
>>>> manifested in Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the
>>>> cross of Calvary. We therefore know our God and have seen Him.
>>>> (Jesus in John 14:6-10) Atheists don't know our God and
>>>> therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in John 3:3) These are enough
"facts"
>>>> for us, why not for you?
>>>
>>> Because, by your own admission, they are not objective.
>>
>> Why do they need to be "objective"?
>
> That's how the rational ac***ulation of knowledge works. Subjective
> experience is not a reliable indicator of reality.
>
>> And why do you insist, that
>> god must be a created material object in order to exist?
>
> I don't. All he has to do is make his presence known to us in
> unmistakeable terms. Once that happens, there will be no atheists left.
> And depending on which god it turns out to be, there won't be any
> Christian or Hindus or Muslims, etc. left.
>
You obviously have never been in love. If you had been you would know
that love "makes its presence known in unmistakable terms". I bet you are
one of those types who used that argument on your girlfriend, to make her
"prove her love to you" LOL
But if love is not objective enough for you, I have a whole display
cabinet full of existing gods, though none will lift one wooden finger for
you. Make me an offer.
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