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> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> Short for nothing.
> >>>
> >>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He
is
> >>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
> >>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
> >> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy
Spirit,
> >> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
> >> pre-eminent... but most im****tantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has
made it
> >> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on
earth
> >> the newness of life.
> >
> > The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not sup****ted by any
solid
> > objective verifiable evidence
>
> . Should we believe in a god for whom there
> > is NO solid objective evidence?
>
> <>><><><
> ><><><
> this is a question only you can ask yourself.
> Is Jesus the only begotten son of God : true God, true man?
> Did He come out of the grave, did He ascend to heaven to be with his
> father?
No - what you quote is merely mythology with nothing to back it up.
>
> what does this all mean to me?
> it requires you humble yourself, and seek this God out
> Is it true that you love me that you would send Jesus, your only
begotten
> Son, so I may have eternal life?
> Go to the Word of God....
there's no words from any gods ever recorded, it all comes from the human
mind
>
> in humility. Put aside all your serious doubts for a while. read a
little
> everyday , and ask this "higher power if there is a higher power" to
reveal
> what those words say.
I would ask the higher power why two thousand kids were allowed to be
swept out
to sea to drown in the tsunami two Cristmases back - and all i would hear
would
be a terrible silence
>
>
> The evidence available is quite the
> > contrary. It is totally implausible! This Jesus belief is
>
> <><><
> <><>.....
> based purely on
> > faith
>
> Right! Stop reasoning. you'll never understand it with your mind. You
must
> come to God in faith.
>
> <><><>
> <><>
> in totally implausible stories, not factual objective verifiable
> > evidence of any kind.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Bibles were written recopied and modified by hundreds of men of
> > unknown veracity and honesty over a time span of several thousands
years.
> > There are NO ORIGINALS IN EXISTENCE. What ever the originals were have
> > rotted and disappeared thousands of years ago. We don't know what the
> > originals said.
>
> <><><><><>
> what is impossible for man is very possible with God. God can and did
> preserve is Holy Word. Again you must come to this truth by faith,
trusting.
> Faith is caught not taught.
> ><><><
> ]<><><><>
>
> The Bibles are nothing more than a mixture of myths, fables,
> > contradictions and impossible tales. There are 18 different versions
alone
> > of the English Bible interpretations.
>
> <><><>
> <><><
> so says the carnal mind. Mmm.
> God through man has supernaturally preserved the book s in the Bible,
and
> don't ask me to provide truth. All I can say is that it still changes
lives,
> and it can yours too.
>
> <><><
>
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the Bibles, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth
and
> > everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created
during
> > this time from 'DUST'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's
RIBS.
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly
> > created this huge complex Universe in six days!
> >
> >
> >
> > This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named
> > Jesus to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to
preach
> > his wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates 'modern' man
has
> > existed approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years
to
> > come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he
himself
> > created!)?
>
> <><><>
>
> <><><>,
>
> The Bible says he came in the fullness of time
> God's ways, God's reasons for the specifics of His salvation plan are
really
> not for me to question
> the Cross ( the atoning death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ)
and
> the cleansing blood of Christ Jesus, washed my sins, therefore I am made
> (imputed) righteous in God's eyes John : 3: 16
> That is where to begin. The others more heavier Theological questions
> shouldn't really concern the new believer...just yet. unless he is
looking
> to find fault and not really interested in salvation of his soul.
> <>><><>,.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > This all powerful creator of this huge Universe supposedly came to
Earth
> > as a baby in a cold manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a
> > virgin called Mary. Why would he choose to be born in such an
ingenuous
> > way?
> <>><><
> Arrogant humans had to make up a myth
> about a god arriving from the womb of another human.
>
> ><><><>
> <><>
> Arrogant humans keep insisting it is a myth, because they hate the terms
of
> salvation. God Jesus died for the Church.
> He has used man to spread the message of His redemptive plan. God said
NO to
> sin: it has to go, and YES to sinful man. People that hate
Christianity,do
> so because they love the sin and do not want to deal with their sinful
> condition. Just read the opening Chapter of John. sinful man love the
> darkness they are in and refuse to come into the light of God's truth,
so
> they do what is convenient. They point out what appears to look like
> man-made errors in the Bible.
>
> ><<><><>
>
> Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
> > Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be
married
> > to a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all
> > powerful god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to
> > create? He supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!
>
> ><><><><>
> <><><>
> Joseph was the earthly parent of Jesus while He was growing up. God is
also
> pro-family. Why should Mary, the mother of Jesus, been a single mom
(we're
> speaking here of earthly parents)?
>
> Mary had to be a virgin: she was concieved by the power of the Holy
Spirit>
> Again thenatural mind doesnot accept this and calls it nonsense.
> I call it amasing ...by faith.
>
> <<><><>
> ,><><><
>
> >
> >
> >
> > If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why
did he
> > use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on
earth???
>
> <><><>
> ,.<><><<><
> All childbirth has been painful since the fall in Genesis 3. the curse
of
> mankind
>
> The cross was torturous. God the father laid all the sins of mankind on
the
> incarnated Son,God-man. Again this goes into Christian theology.
>
> He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
> > adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years.
After
> > about THIRTY YEARS, he supposedly announced to the local inhabitants
that
> > he was Jesus the God savior from heaven to tell them God's wishes and
> > commands.
>
> <><><><>
> ,><><><>
>
> The New Test deals primarily with the earthly ministry of Christ Jesus.
His
> childhood accounts wouldn't be relevant to a believer... really if you
think
> about it, as much as when He was speaking of the Kingdom to the cross.
>
> <>><><.,
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> >
> >
> >
> >> What about you... what do you want to believe... what do you believe
to
> >> be truth and fables?
> >> The Kingdom of Heaven is like a hidden treasure...Seek Him while you
may.
> >>
> >> rockymt
> >>
> >
> >
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