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"Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Short for nothing.
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>>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He is
>>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
>>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
>> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy
Spirit,
>> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
>> pre-eminent... but most im****tantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has made
it
>> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on earth
>> the newness of life.
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> The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not sup****ted by any solid
> objective verifiable evidence
.. Should we believe in a god for whom there
> is NO solid objective evidence?
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this is a question only you can ask yourself.
Is Jesus the only begotten son of God : true God, true man?
Did He come out of the grave, did He ascend to heaven to be with his
father?
what does this all mean to me?
it requires you humble yourself, and seek this God out
Is it true that you love me that you would send Jesus, your only begotten
Son, so I may have eternal life?
Go to the Word of God....
in humility. Put aside all your serious doubts for a while. read a little
everyday , and ask this "higher power if there is a higher power" to
reveal
what those words say.
The evidence available is quite the
> contrary. It is totally implausible! This Jesus belief is
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based purely on
> faith
Right! Stop reasoning. you'll never understand it with your mind. You must
come to God in faith.
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in totally implausible stories, not factual objective verifiable
> evidence of any kind.
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> The Bibles were written recopied and modified by hundreds of men of
> unknown veracity and honesty over a time span of several thousands
years.
> There are NO ORIGINALS IN EXISTENCE. What ever the originals were have
> rotted and disappeared thousands of years ago. We don't know what the
> originals said.
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what is impossible for man is very possible with God. God can and did
preserve is Holy Word. Again you must come to this truth by faith,
trusting.
Faith is caught not taught.
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The Bibles are nothing more than a mixture of myths, fables,
> contradictions and impossible tales. There are 18 different versions
alone
> of the English Bible interpretations.
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so says the carnal mind. Mmm.
God through man has supernaturally preserved the book s in the Bible, and
don't ask me to provide truth. All I can say is that it still changes
lives,
and it can yours too.
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> According to the Bibles, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth
and
> everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created during
> this time from 'DUST'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's
RIBS.
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> According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly
> created this huge complex Universe in six days!
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> This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named
> Jesus to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to
preach
> his wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates 'modern' man
has
> existed approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to
> come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he
himself
> created!)?
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The Bible says he came in the fullness of time
God's ways, God's reasons for the specifics of His salvation plan are
really
not for me to question
the Cross ( the atoning death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ)
and
the cleansing blood of Christ Jesus, washed my sins, therefore I am made
(imputed) righteous in God's eyes John : 3: 16
That is where to begin. The others more heavier Theological questions
shouldn't really concern the new believer...just yet. unless he is
looking
to find fault and not really interested in salvation of his soul.
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> This all powerful creator of this huge Universe supposedly came to Earth
> as a baby in a cold manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a
> virgin called Mary. Why would he choose to be born in such an ingenuous
> way?
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Arrogant humans had to make up a myth
about a god arriving from the womb of another human.
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Arrogant humans keep insisting it is a myth, because they hate the terms
of
salvation. God Jesus died for the Church.
He has used man to spread the message of His redemptive plan. God said NO
to
sin: it has to go, and YES to sinful man. People that hate Christianity,do
so because they love the sin and do not want to deal with their sinful
condition. Just read the opening Chapter of John. sinful man love the
darkness they are in and refuse to come into the light of God's truth, so
they do what is convenient. They point out what appears to look like
man-made errors in the Bible.
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Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
> Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be married
> to a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all
> powerful god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to
> create? He supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!
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Joseph was the earthly parent of Jesus while He was growing up. God is
also
pro-family. Why should Mary, the mother of Jesus, been a single mom (we're
speaking here of earthly parents)?
Mary had to be a virgin: she was concieved by the power of the Holy
Spirit>
Again thenatural mind doesnot accept this and calls it nonsense.
I call it amasing ...by faith.
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> If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why did
he
> use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on earth???
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All childbirth has been painful since the fall in Genesis 3. the curse of
mankind
The cross was torturous. God the father laid all the sins of mankind on
the
incarnated Son,God-man. Again this goes into Christian theology.
He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
> adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years. After
> about THIRTY YEARS, he supposedly announced to the local inhabitants
that
> he was Jesus the God savior from heaven to tell them God's wishes and
> commands.
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The New Test deals primarily with the earthly ministry of Christ Jesus.
His
childhood accounts wouldn't be relevant to a believer... really if you
think
about it, as much as when He was speaking of the Kingdom to the cross.
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>> What about you... what do you want to believe... what do you believe to
>> be truth and fables?
>> The Kingdom of Heaven is like a hidden treasure...Seek Him while you
may.
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>> rockymt
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