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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:47:14 -0500, Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>>> just as I don't
>>> see how an atheist could make a claim that God doesn't exist
>>Most atheists do not make any such claim. Those who do face the same
>>burden of evidence the theists who assert there god exists do.
> What is truly pathetic, is that they see all the other religions in
> much the same way we see theirs: people who believe something that is
> only "real" inside the religion. So they invent things we don't say,
> Heck, we're not even talking about the same thing.
> They imagine we don't believe in something that is real, self-evident
> etc.
Rephrased for clarity, they think we lack belief in something which they
see as being both real and self-evident, sort of like not believing in the
moon.
Which is beyond bizarre. If it were so self-evident, we might *disagree*
with it, but we'd certainly be able to *see* it. Instead we're told
things like "You just don't want to see" and the like.
No, it's not that we don't _want_ to see, it's simply that we _don't_ see,
despite repeated requests of the faithful to show us something. They
either can't - in which case, why _they_ believe is somewhat less than
clear, or they _won't_, in which case - by their beliefs, generally -
they're actually aiding in our supposed descent to damnation. Not very
neighbourly of them, wot?
> When it's actually like believers in the fairies at the bottom of the
> garden, thinking there's something wrong with those who don't.
Exactly. How can you _not_ believe? After all, look at the flowers -
positive proof that the fairies came and arranged them.
> They simply can't grasp that in the real world it remains "just somebody
> else's religious belief" until they demonstrate otherwise. Which they
> are incapable of doing.
Some, perhaps, but by and large that's about it: to them, the content of
the belief is somehow "real", but only if it's _their_ belief. Someone
else's, well, that's just silly superstition or some such. "Our"
religion, though, that's different.
Except it ain't.
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“xian subculture is Orwellian abuse of language.” -- jonny vee
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