On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:03:26 -0500, "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"les_on_usenet" <delete-unread@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:46:49 GMT, Kenneth Doyle <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:25 -0500, Pastor Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Love isn't an "un-provable premise", and we believe in it, and
>>>> anyone
>>>> who demonstrates it, as Christ did on the cross of Calvary.
>>>
>>>There's no proof that that event ever happened, or that Christ ever
>>>existed.
>>
>> Nor does it matter. To look to one person or one ideal to guide us
>> is narrow minded and shallow. Wisdom, understanding and the
>> correct way to lead our lives comes not from one single role model,
>> like Paul's Christ or a football player but from us all. I look for
>> the good in everybody and synthesise the best as my guide. A
>> casual remark or a wise action can make a difference or remind me when
>> I have forgotten. Thus I tread my path hopefully gaining wisdom
>> as I do. There is nothing to be gained by looking to one single
>> source like the Bible. That is a dead end.
>>
> No quite. By all means look around and explore the world's major
>religions, I did.
That is not what I said. Nor is it what I do . It is typical that you
interpret what I say in that light totally overlooking the worlds
greatest literature and poetry and just the ordinary man in the street
a relative or worthy on our radio stations and TV. Even bad people can
be a guide showing us what not to do.
> But if you look carefully, you will notice that Christ is
>about relation****ps and commitment, not intelligence, knowledge, logic
and
>reason.
So what?
So is living a life and that is a much richer and rewarding
experience. Something you seem not to understand stuck in
your myopic fantasy world.
> Our relation****p with God is a parental one,
Good for you. So is my relation****p with my mother, only it
is real not fantasy.
> based upon the love a
>father has for his children, and that this parental love is not subject
to
>logic nor reason.
Your lack of understanding is noted.
> In other words, the kid who loves his Dad does NOT get
>what he deserves, because mutual love causes all in such relation****ps to
be
>blind to each other's faults and shortcomings.
> That is why it's so difficult for some people to get a handle on the
>Christian religion in particular.
I cannot get a handle on a dreamed up fantasy since it is entirely
without substance and im many cases contradictory. Real life in
any case is far more interesting and rewarding though I admit
I do enjoying immersing myself in fantasy now and again. Variety
as they say is the spice of life.
You constant repeating of the same selected quotes from the
Bible just shows how shallow and myopic your understanding
and knowledge is.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORK****RE - The White Rose County
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