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> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Short for nothing.
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>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He is
>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit,
> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
> pre-eminent... but most im****tantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has made
it
> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on earth
> the newness of life.
The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not sup****ted by any solid
objective verifiable evidence. Should we believe in a god for whom there
is
NO solid objective evidence? The evidence available is quite the contrary.
It is totally implausible! This Jesus belief is based purely on faith in
totally implausible stories, not factual objective verifiable evidence of
any kind.
The Bibles were written recopied and modified by hundreds of men of
unknown
veracity and honesty over a time span of several thousands years. There
are
NO ORIGINALS IN EXISTENCE. What ever the originals were have rotted and
disappeared thousands of years ago. We don't know what the originals said.
The Bibles are nothing more than a mixture of myths, fables,
contradictions
and impossible tales. There are 18 different versions alone of the English
Bible interpretations.
According to the Bibles, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth and
everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created during
this
time from 'DUST'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's RIBS.
According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly
created
this huge complex Universe in six days!
This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named
Jesus
to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to preach his
wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates 'modern' man has
existed approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to
come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he himself
created!)?
This all powerful creator of this huge Universe supposedly came to Earth
as
a baby in a cold manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a virgin
called Mary. Why would he choose to be born in such an ingenuous way?
Arrogant humans had to make up a myth
about a god arriving from the womb of another human.
If Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be married
to
a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all
powerful
god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to create? He
supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!
If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why did he
use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on earth???
He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years. After
about THIRTY YEARS, he supposedly announced to the local inhabitants that
he was Jesus the God savior from heaven to tell them God's wishes and
commands.
There are no significant records of Jesus', (the Christ) actual existence
in
the non religious do***ents of the era. Depending upon which Bible story
you
choose, it is claimed he preached his doctrines for less than one, two or
three years. In any case, why put himself on earth for some thirty
inconsequential years and only use a few of these years to preach his
doctrines? And then not use his omnipotent power to preach to the WHOLE
world instead of just a miniscule part of the world around Jerusalem?
Jesus was baptized. In Christianity, baptism is the sacrament of
regeneration and initiation into the Christian church. According to a
theme
of St. Paul the Apostle, baptism is death to a former life and the
emergence
of a new person, signified by the conferring of a new name; it is the
total
annulment of the sins of one's past, from which one emerges a totally
innocent person. Then why would a 'God Jesus' need to be baptized?
His sermons and teachings only reached a miniscule part of the world
population at that time because he did not speak via the equivalent of
International Radio or TV. IF he was an ALL powerful creator of the world,
he certainly would have the ability to speak to ALL of mankind by means at
least as effective as man. Why did this all powerful god creator wait
100,000 years to come and preach to only a very small segment of the
world,
for a very short period of time, (depending on which Bible you choose) and
then leave us without ANY solid objective verifiable evidence of his
existence, his wishes and commands? Why did he not preserve his teachings
in
some permanent form for all of mankind in the future? The Bibles were
supposedly written by 56 or more authors of unknown veracity over a period
of thousands of years. There are NO - NADA originals of any of the Bibles
in
existence. The originals have all rotted and disappeared thousands of
years
ago. They are all hand copies of copies etc. of unknown actual origin and
veracity.
Why would any omnipotent God, creator of this huge complex Universe,
provide
his message in such a sloppy, inaccurate, unreliable, questionable and
confusing manor???
Why did he not use his great omnipotent powers to preach to the WHOLE
world
from his Heaven, instead of just preaching to an insignificant ****tion of
the world?? Why did he leave most of mankind totally in the dark?
He supposedly distributed his word via hand copied do***ents called the
Bibles. Yet NONE of the Bibles were written during his 'claimed' time on
earth. The original Bibles were written and hand recopied more than 1500
years before the invention of the printing press. There is no evidence
that
Jesus ever wrote a word. NO ORIGINAL copies of ANY of the Bibles exist so
we
do not know what they said! Why did he not preserve them? The Bibles now
in
existence are hand copies of copies etc. of unknown and doubtful veracity.
They are largely myths, fables, hearsay and contradictory and implausible
tales. The four books of the New Testament were written and copied
somewhere
between 60 and 200 years AFTER Jesus' supposed existence. None of the
authors could have known him directly. They are all third person fictional
narratives of unknown veracity. Why would a real god, creator of this huge
Universe, not arrange for the creation of clear, authentic, contem****ary
and
permanent copies of his word?
During his brief adulthood, preaching his word, he is 'claimed' to have
restored site to a few of the blind, restored mobility to a few of the
crippled and restored health to a few of the sick. Why was he so niggardly
about helping the poor, the disabled and the sick? Is this the likely
conduct of an all loving God creator?
After the brief period of time he preached, it only reached a very small
part of the world's population. He did not avail himself of any
communication means as effective as Radio, TV, Telephone or the Internet.
He
then allowed himself to be painfully and brutally crucified on a cross
between two criminals to pay for man's sins (which he created). If he
died
on the cross to save mankind, why was mankind no better off after this
supposed crucifixion than before? Was all this blood and gore for
nothing?!
The Roman courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not
condemned
without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found
guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought
before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of
wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he
found
him innocent; but the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify him!" and to
please
the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man whom he had found innocent,
should
be delivered to the executioners to be crucified! Also, real criminals
were
crucified by being 'tied' to the cross - not nailed! What was the purpose
of
all this blood and gore? Why should any REAL god need to suffer for man's
sins??? (which god created)
Why was his life and crucifixion not in any of the numerous historical
do***ents of the time??? Why is this only in church do***ents?
If Jesus performed the wonderful miracles the New Testament describes, why
did the people want him crucified? Is it not amazing that a civilized
people
would demand that a kind and loving man who went about doing good works,
who
preached forgiveness, cleansed the leprous, and raised the dead - that
they
could not be appeased until they had brutally crucified the noblest
benefactor of mankind? This makes NO sense at all!
If he could create the Universe and every thing in it, (including sin) why
did he not just forgive man's sins, directly from his heaven, without all
this blood and gore? Three days after he died he supposedly rose from the
dead and returned to his heaven. Why did he wait uncomfortably in a crypt
for three days after his death and internment to return to his magnificent
heaven? Why did he wait 30 years!? How can an immortal god die? Jesus
did
not die for our sins. People are still praying to him in his supposed
heaven!
What was the logic and purpose of this gruesome and painful killing? Only
a
miniscule part of the world's population at the time would be aware of
this
claimed sacrifice.
Billions of people today are still not knowledgeable believers of this
highly implausible story. Why did he not preserve a video tape, DVD or
other
permanent record of this historic episode? If man is capable of these
devices certainly a god creator should be equally or more proficient.
Why did he not leave any 'authenticated' do***ents accurately
substantiating
his appearance? Why has he failed to communicate further for over 2,000
years?
He supposedly went through this torture and humiliating death to pay for
mans sins which he himself created! Why did he not just wave his wand and
forgive man's sins and skip all the ridiculous blood and gore??? Why did
he
create sin in the first place? This should be no problem for a god that
created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib, and this immense Universe.
Why do people supposedly still have the same sins that he died for?
Why does he encourage or permit Christians to drink his blood and eat his
flesh? Isn't this a pagan ritual?
Why does he continue to allow thousands of greedy self serving men to
deliver his word to his flock in such a vague, inconsistent,
contradictory,
and ineffectual manner? There are hundreds of different Christian sects
and
beliefs. There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs and
practices. Why does he allow this gross confusion? Why does he not
communicate clearly and DIRECTLY to his entire flock that he is the real
god
and all the others are fakes? It would be more responsible and more
effective to eliminate this gross confusion?
If he is the real god, why does he even permit the belief and propagation
of
thousands of false gods and false religions?
The Christ tale is obviously not factual history but pure myth.
The objective evidence is that God did not create man but quite the
contrary; that man created Gods!
> What about you... what do you want to believe... what do you believe to
be
> truth and fables?
> The Kingdom of Heaven is like a hidden treasure...Seek Him while you
may.
>
> rockymt
>
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