"Michael Gray" <mikegray@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:19:59 -0400, "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:42:17 -0400, in alt.atheism
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>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:10:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>> duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:25 -0500, Free Lunch
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>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:41:01 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:24:35 +0100, "Bill M"
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>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>I find it dumbfounding that religionists spend billions of
their
>>>>>>>>>>>dollars and
>>>>>>>>>>>waste thousands of hours of their time adulating gods for which
>>>>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>NO-NADA objective verifiable evidence for their existence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>There is evidence for us. But then again, we don't turn a blind
>>>>>>>>>>eye
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>facts like you do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There is no evidence to sup****t your claims about gods, souls,
>>>>>>>>>heaven
>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>hell. None at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get your head out of the atheist swill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your total inability to offer sup****ting facts appears to be
getting
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have faith. the kingdom of God is not about science facts for your
>>>>>>info
>>>>>>... or my coming up with proof for the finite mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fine, you have faith. Why is your faith better or more reliable than
>>>>> the
>>>>> faith that others have?
>>>>
>>>>The resurrected Christ . no other faith can claim this All of
>>>>Christianity
>>>>hindges on this " can't be proven, but accepted with a child-like
faith"
>>>>fact.
>>>
>>> Yes, Christianity claims that Christ was resurrected. No evidence
>>> sup****ts that claim or any of the other claims about Jesus' godhood.
>>> Islam says that God is merciful and didn't need to create an avatar to
>>> kill.
>>>
>>>> Why is your religion better than someone else's?
>>>>
>>>>I accept Christianity to nbe the only true faith. the other don't even
>>>>count. they are man - made religions.
>>>
>>> Then there must be evidence that Christianity is not. Please provide
it.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't care if you have faith, but would you deny physical evidence
>>>>> because it donesn't fit with doctrines that you believe?
>>>>
>>>>I don't care if faith? what then should I say about your petty doubts?
>>>>God
>>>>is infinite, man has finite understanding. period.
>>>
>>> Nice rhetoric, but it doesn't answer a question.
>>>
>>>>>>the kingdom of God is about accepting the infinite, all knowing, all
>>>>>>powerful God with a childlike trust. If you don't accept the kingdom
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>God
>>>>>>like this kind of child-like faith, you are not worthy of the
Kingdom
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>will not enter it until you do, if you do. It is birthed within our
>>>>>>heart
>>>>>>and its fulfilment is Christ's return.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's an interesting claim.
>>>>
>>>>eternal damnation -Jesus took on our sin, so we wouldn't have to go
>>>>there
>>>
>>> Why was that necessary? Why couldn't God have shown the mercy He shows
>>> in Islam, without the death of Jesus?
>>>
>>>>> Why should anyone accept it?
>>>>
>>>>tired of running from God.. sick and tired of being sick and tired.
>>>>Something better :the kingdom of God - Jesus Christ
>>>
>>> What is the Kingdom of God? Where is it? Why is your version right
>>> (other than your mere assertion)?
>>>
>>>>>>within this heart that has the kingdom of God germinating, God's
>>>>>>revelation
>>>>>>is granted
>>>>>>Christianity is all about the Kingdom. the natural mind cannot
>>>>>>understand
>>>>>>the things of the spiritual world of the Kingdom to come, because it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>spiritual appraised. So it is no wonder that those who say, "show
me
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>proof" have nothing else but what they see with their natural
eyes...
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>often stoop to insulting God's children.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask for evidence, not proof. You honestly admit you have none.
Fine.
>>>>
>>>>look, faith is a thing of the heart, either you want to believe or you
>>>>don't. it is that simple.
>>>
>>> Yes, and more people believe religions that are not Christian than
>>> believe Christianity. Within Christianity, there are thousands of
>>> differing doctrines. Why is Christianity trustworthy?
>>>
>>>>This infinite God knows what to reveal to the heart(God will never
bend
>>>>to
>>>>the sceptic mind)
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>>> and what not to .
>>>
>>> So God does not offer grace to all.
>>
>>
>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<><><><><><><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>>> So God does not offer grace to all.
>>
>>God loves the sinner,
>
> Which "god"?
the God that created you for himself ( you were fearfully and wonderfully
made: Psalm) . The God that loves you. The one God Who desires to have a
personal relation****p with you. the one God Who is waiting ( he never
forces
his way in) to make a dwelling place within your heart. this is the the
God
of grace
> And why only one?
If you wish to have many gods then believe that. For me I believe in only
one God that is in three persons called the Holy Trinity: Father,
Son(Jesus
Christ incarnated) and the Holy Spirit
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