On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:19:59 -0400, "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Free Lunch" <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:42:17 -0400, in alt.atheism
>> "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:07:08 -0400, in alt.atheism
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>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:10:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>>>> duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:25 -0500, Free Lunch
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>>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:41:01 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:24:35 +0100, "Bill M"
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>>>>>>>>>>I find it dumbfounding that religionists spend billions of their
>>>>>>>>>>dollars and
>>>>>>>>>>waste thousands of hours of their time adulating gods for which
>>>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>NO-NADA objective verifiable evidence for their existence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There is evidence for us. But then again, we don't turn a blind
eye
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>facts like you do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There is no evidence to sup****t your claims about gods, souls,
heaven
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>hell. None at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Get your head out of the atheist swill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your total inability to offer sup****ting facts appears to be
getting
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have faith. the kingdom of God is not about science facts for your
>>>>>info
>>>>>... or my coming up with proof for the finite mind.
>>>>
>>>> Fine, you have faith. Why is your faith better or more reliable than
the
>>>> faith that others have?
>>>
>>>The resurrected Christ . no other faith can claim this All of
>>>Christianity
>>>hindges on this " can't be proven, but accepted with a child-like
faith"
>>>fact.
>>
>> Yes, Christianity claims that Christ was resurrected. No evidence
>> sup****ts that claim or any of the other claims about Jesus' godhood.
>> Islam says that God is merciful and didn't need to create an avatar to
>> kill.
>>
>>> Why is your religion better than someone else's?
>>>
>>>I accept Christianity to nbe the only true faith. the other don't even
>>>count. they are man - made religions.
>>
>> Then there must be evidence that Christianity is not. Please provide
it.
>>>
>>>> I don't care if you have faith, but would you deny physical evidence
>>>> because it donesn't fit with doctrines that you believe?
>>>
>>>I don't care if faith? what then should I say about your petty doubts?
>>>God
>>>is infinite, man has finite understanding. period.
>>
>> Nice rhetoric, but it doesn't answer a question.
>>
>>>>>the kingdom of God is about accepting the infinite, all knowing, all
>>>>>powerful God with a childlike trust. If you don't accept the kingdom
of
>>>>>God
>>>>>like this kind of child-like faith, you are not worthy of the Kingdom
>>>>>and
>>>>>will not enter it until you do, if you do. It is birthed within our
>>>>>heart
>>>>>and its fulfilment is Christ's return.
>>>>
>>>> That's an interesting claim.
>>>
>>>eternal damnation -Jesus took on our sin, so we wouldn't have to go
there
>>
>> Why was that necessary? Why couldn't God have shown the mercy He shows
>> in Islam, without the death of Jesus?
>>
>>>> Why should anyone accept it?
>>>
>>>tired of running from God.. sick and tired of being sick and tired.
>>>Something better :the kingdom of God - Jesus Christ
>>
>> What is the Kingdom of God? Where is it? Why is your version right
>> (other than your mere assertion)?
>>
>>>>>within this heart that has the kingdom of God germinating, God's
>>>>>revelation
>>>>>is granted
>>>>>Christianity is all about the Kingdom. the natural mind cannot
>>>>>understand
>>>>>the things of the spiritual world of the Kingdom to come, because it
is
>>>>>spiritual appraised. So it is no wonder that those who say, "show me
>>>>>the
>>>>>proof" have nothing else but what they see with their natural eyes...
>>>>>and
>>>>>often stoop to insulting God's children.
>>>>
>>>> I ask for evidence, not proof. You honestly admit you have none.
Fine.
>>>
>>>look, faith is a thing of the heart, either you want to believe or you
>>>don't. it is that simple.
>>
>> Yes, and more people believe religions that are not Christian than
>> believe Christianity. Within Christianity, there are thousands of
>> differing doctrines. Why is Christianity trustworthy?
>>
>>>This infinite God knows what to reveal to the heart(God will never bend
to
>>>the sceptic mind)
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>>> and what not to .
>>
>> So God does not offer grace to all.
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>> So God does not offer grace to all.
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>God loves the sinner,
Which "god"?
And why only one?
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