On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:42:17 -0400, in alt.atheism
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>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:07:08 -0400, in alt.atheism
>> "rockymt" <rockymt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:10:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>> duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:25 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:41:01 -0500, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:24:35 +0100, "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>I find it dumbfounding that religionists spend billions of their
>>>>>>>>dollars and
>>>>>>>>waste thousands of hours of their time adulating gods for which
there
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>NO-NADA objective verifiable evidence for their existence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is evidence for us. But then again, we don't turn a blind
eye
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>facts like you do.
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>>>>>>There is no evidence to sup****t your claims about gods, souls,
heaven
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>hell. None at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Get your head out of the atheist swill.
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>>>> Your total inability to offer sup****ting facts appears to be getting
to
>>>> you.
>>>
>>>I have faith. the kingdom of God is not about science facts for your
info
>>>... or my coming up with proof for the finite mind.
>>
>> Fine, you have faith. Why is your faith better or more reliable than
the
>> faith that others have?
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>The resurrected Christ . no other faith can claim this All of
Christianity
>hindges on this " can't be proven, but accepted with a child-like faith"
>fact.
Yes, Christianity claims that Christ was resurrected. No evidence
sup****ts that claim or any of the other claims about Jesus' godhood.
Islam says that God is merciful and didn't need to create an avatar to
kill.
> Why is your religion better than someone else's?
>
>I accept Christianity to nbe the only true faith. the other don't even
>count. they are man - made religions.
Then there must be evidence that Christianity is not. Please provide it.
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>> I don't care if you have faith, but would you deny physical evidence
>> because it donesn't fit with doctrines that you believe?
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>I don't care if faith? what then should I say about your petty doubts?
God
>is infinite, man has finite understanding. period.
Nice rhetoric, but it doesn't answer a question.
>>>the kingdom of God is about accepting the infinite, all knowing, all
>>>powerful God with a childlike trust. If you don't accept the kingdom of
>>>God
>>>like this kind of child-like faith, you are not worthy of the Kingdom
and
>>>will not enter it until you do, if you do. It is birthed within our
heart
>>>and its fulfilment is Christ's return.
>>
>> That's an interesting claim.
>
>eternal damnation -Jesus took on our sin, so we wouldn't have to go there
Why was that necessary? Why couldn't God have shown the mercy He shows
in Islam, without the death of Jesus?
>> Why should anyone accept it?
>
>tired of running from God.. sick and tired of being sick and tired.
>Something better :the kingdom of God - Jesus Christ
What is the Kingdom of God? Where is it? Why is your version right
(other than your mere assertion)?
>>>within this heart that has the kingdom of God germinating, God's
>>>revelation
>>>is granted
>>>Christianity is all about the Kingdom. the natural mind cannot
understand
>>>the things of the spiritual world of the Kingdom to come, because it is
>>>spiritual appraised. So it is no wonder that those who say, "show me
the
>>>proof" have nothing else but what they see with their natural eyes...
and
>>>often stoop to insulting God's children.
>>
>> I ask for evidence, not proof. You honestly admit you have none. Fine.
>
>look, faith is a thing of the heart, either you want to believe or you
>don't. it is that simple.
Yes, and more people believe religions that are not Christian than
believe Christianity. Within Christianity, there are thousands of
differing doctrines. Why is Christianity trustworthy?
>This infinite God knows what to reveal to the heart(God will never bend
to
>the sceptic mind)
Why not?
> and what not to .
So God does not offer grace to all.
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