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DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?

by "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 27, 2007 at 07:24 PM

I find it dumbfounding that religionists spend billions of their dollars
and 
waste thousands of hours of their time adulating gods for which there is 
NO-NADA objective verifiable evidence for their existence.



There is no evidence of any direct communication from any of these gods. 
There is no direct appearance from any of these gods to demonstrate their 
existence. There is absolutely NO objective verifiable evidence that any
of 
these gods actually exist!



There existence is based purely on hopes and faith with absolutely NO-NADA

tangible evidence!



If one considers the brutal and unfair nature of this world, the evidence
is 
just the opposite. No such thing as a loving god would permit the existing

brutality and unfair nature of this world.



In the real world; Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Wars,

Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body malfunctions
and 
starvation exist that torture both man and animals.  There are 12,000
known 
ailments and diseases that torture and kill man. A similar number torture 
and plaque the rest of the animal kingdom. Thousands of destructive
diseases 
affect the plant kingdom. Why would an all powerful god create all these 
diseases to torture and kill his creations??? These catastrophes affect 
people of ALL religious beliefs including TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN and 
ANIMALS!



Why would any all powerful competent god permit totally innocent children
to 
die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain,

deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and others
with 
super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others pauper poor? 
Why does he permit 2,000,000 totally innocent children to suffer and die
of 
starvation each year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate 
into a miserable and devastating old age?


Why would god create birds without the power of flight, yet give them
wings they cannot use?

Why would god create cave-dwelling creatures that live in complete
darkness, yet give them eyes that don't work?



If an all powerful god created this, why did he make so many horrible 
mistakes and create this huge multitude of imperfections, pain and 
suffering???



IF there is an after life and a 'heaven' why does this all powerful, all 
caring and all loving god not permit those in his heaven to communicate
the 
wonders of his heaven to their living children, relatives and friends? Why

all the secrecy and confusion? Unproven claims by the mentally deranged
and 
persons with selfish motives are not objective verifiable evidence - they 
are just unsubstantiated selfish OPINIONS.



Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;



Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?



These god tales make no more sense than Aesop's Fables, the Harry Potter 
stories, the Wizard of Oz, or Santa Claus.



Where is the evidence?




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DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-27 19:24:35 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2007-10-28 08:41:01 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-10-28 08:48:25 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2007-10-28 12:10:45 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-10-28 12:29:34 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-10-30 19:07:08 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-10-30 18:46:05 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-10-31 07:42:17 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-10-31 10:35:17 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-01 10:14:23 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-10-31 18:40:45 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-01 02:19:59 
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Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-01 17:54:29 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-01 11:32:44 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-11-01 12:12:41 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-03 12:26:51 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-11-01 18:51:47 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-02 11:35:23 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-01 02:30:05 
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Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-10-31 12:16:47 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-10-31 07:50:20 
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"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-10-31 10:37:18 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-01 10:16:30 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-10-31 10:32:34 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
Michael Gray <mikegray  2007-11-01 10:17:26 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-10-28 21:06:02 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-10-28 10:09:54 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2007-10-28 12:11:25 
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"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-10-28 14:15:37 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-28 18:21:20 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-10-28 21:07:01 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-30 17:39:30 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-10-31 00:16:03 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST? OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-31 17:00:08 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST? OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-01 00:39:03 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST? OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-02 15:10:43 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST? OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-03 00:04:06 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-10-31 10:38:25 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-28 12:02:31 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2007-10-28 12:10:16 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-28 18:18:34 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-10-28 21:05:02 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-31 17:08:41 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-01 00:44:03 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-10-28 21:01:02 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-31 17:14:11 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-01 00:49:02 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-28 22:44:36 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-29 19:10:04 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-31 17:03:55 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-01 00:52:02 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"JESUS WAS A COCKSUC  2007-11-01 09:29:55 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST, OR ONLY UNREAL ONES?
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-02 15:16:52 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
rjall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-03 05:30:29 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-04 07:30:08 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-11-07 00:10:40 
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"rockymt" <r  2007-11-09 00:36:08 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-04 16:32:51 
Re: DOES ANY REAL GOD EXIST?
"rockymt" <r  2007-11-04 16:31:58 

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