Re: QUESTION FOR RELIGIONISTS

Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:37:33 GMT, Will <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>>"Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:re3Ui.6130$b9.4174
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>>> There are many hundreds of religious and god beliefs.
>>> 
>>> How do you know your belief is the correct belief and all the others
>>> are fakes?
>>
>>By the daily miracles, signs, and wonders.  By the prophecies that
>>have been fulfilled, and are still being fulfilled today?  By the
>>grace that He has extended me.  By the answered prayers.  By the
>>unanswered prayers.  By faith and love.
> 
> IOW, you don't have a clue.

I'm not the one asking the questions here, you are.  Try reading my 
answer, however, instead of writing your own IOW answer.

> 
>>> Why would any real God permit his creations to be so deceived? 
> 
>>Why don't you ask Him with an open mind and an open heart?
> 
> Why don't you post objective evidence that "he" objectively exists?

Because I'm not the one asking the loaded question, I'm not the one 
seeking the answers to this loaded question, and I'm not the one that's 
trying to convince others of my belief or disbelief.

Why don't you ask yourself if He exists the next time you come within a 
fraction of a second of sure death just to be saved by some infinitesimal 
improbability (we call those miracles where I'm from, though that's not 
the only kind of miracle)?  Ask yourself if He exists next time the 
timing is just too perfect for a personal petition (a prayer) answered 
from that very deity that you chose not to believe in.  When you finally 
realize how blessed you are, ask yourself if He exists.

Again, you're the one that wants to know, not me.  You're the one seeking 
answers, not me (for I have found all the answers in Him).  Just approach 
the subject with an open heart and open mind, and you'll find the answers 
that you need--not from me, and probably not from any one particular 
church, synagogue, mosque, or other kind of religious facility, but from 
Him whom I serve.

Whatever you decide for yourself concerning your own personal beliefs, 
however, does not change whether or not He truly exists.  Whatever you 
decide for yourself concerning your own personal beliefs, I ask that you 
recognize that there will be those who won't believe as do you (just as 
there are now), but that doesn't make your belief any more or any less 
valid.  Therefore, whatever you decide for yourself concerning your own 
personal beliefs, I ask that you excercise a certain degree of tolerance 
toward those who chose to believe differently.

In my belief, all the law and all the prophets hang upon two great 
commandments of love: to love God with everything you have, and to love 
your neighbor as yourself (see Matthew 22:35-40).  Whether you consider 
this belief valid or not is of little consequence to me, but would you 
really chose to go against any belief that professes that kind of 
selfless love?