"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Enkidu wrote:
>>>>> Kirk Gregory Czuhai <lovekgc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>>> Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested
>>> in
>>> Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary.
We
>>> therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
>>> Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
>>> John 3:3)
>
> According to the New Testament of the New American
> Bible translated from the original Greek by the Catholic
> Biblical Association of America, this should read:
>
> John 3:3 Everyone who has this hope based on him
> keeps himself pure, as he is pure.
>
> The New Revised Standard Version reads:
>
> John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "Very truly, I tell you,
> no one can see the kingdom of God
> without being born from above."
>
> No mention of atheists in either quote, though they
> could be included with everyone else who wasn't
> Christian at the time. The fact is, Christians who
> wrote the bible stories considered anyone who wasn't
> a Christian to be an atheist, even if they followed
> another religion. The same with John 14:6-10.
>>
>> REALLY??? THIS IS LOVE!
>>
>> Why does this all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
>> designer, create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
>> Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating
diseases
>> and serious body malfunctions? There are 12,000 known diseases that
>> affect and punish mankind indiscriminately. Why does he permit millions
>> of both young and old to starve to death or die of miserable diseases?
>> Why punish millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this horrible way?
>>
>>
>> Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent
>> children" to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully
>> developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born
>> idiots and others with super intelligence? Why are some born into
wealth
>> and others pauper poor? Why does he permit over 2,000,000 innocent
>> children to die of starvation every year? Why are his human creations
>> designed to deteriorate into a miserable and devastating old age
>> regardless of their religious affiliation?
>>
>>
>>
>> God supposedly created the world like it is, to punish man for Adam and
>> Eve's 'original sin'. Why does he also punish supposedly innocent
>> children and animals with thousands of diseases, birth defects,
>> starvation and to be eaten by other animals?
>>
>>
>>
>> Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks,
>> jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, wolves, poisonous
s****s,
>> stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this
>> caring and benevolent god create animals (including man) that need to
>> painfully kill and eat other animals to survive?
>>
>>
>>
>> World War I claimed 9,000,000 lives of people of many religious faiths.
>>
>> World II indiscriminately claimed over 20,000,000 lives of people of
all
>> ages and religious faiths, plus a vast destruction of property and more
>> millions maimed for life.
>>
>> The recent Asian Tsunami has claimed the lives of 200,000 men, women
and
>> children of all religious persuasions. Over 100,000 of these were
totally
>> INNOCENT children!
>>
>> There were three major epidemics of the Bubonic Plaque - in the 6th,
>> 14th. and 17th centuries. The death toll was over 137 million men,
women
>> and totally innocent children.
>>
>> The influenza of 1918-1919 killed at least 25 million men, women and
>> innocent children indiscriminately.
>>
>>
>>
>> Diseases like malaria, AIDS, tuberculosis, etc. maim and kill millions
>> indiscriminately every year. More millions die of starvation and
>> malnutrition.
>>
>> These indiscriminately afflicted the young and old, atheists and those
of
>> all religious persuasions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile MAN, not god, has developed defenses and cures for hundreds
of
>> serious diseases. Man has learned to create shelter, heat and cooling,
>> purify water, world wide electronic communications, power and
>> trans****tation systems including flying through the air.
>>
>> Man has created a wonderful medical and drug system and improved
housing
>> and food production. The result of MAN'S inventiveness has
>>
>> DOUBLED the average life span. None of this was created by any gods.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps your loving and caring god is actually a cruel, heartless, mean
>> and torturing tyrant. If he treats us so cruelly during life, why do
you
>> think he will let us enjoy peace and eternal happiness in his Heaven?
And
>> why does he keep all this a secret by preventing communication with our
>> dead parents, siblings and friends? (Or this god?)
>>
>>
>>
>> There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs but NO
>> OJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for the actual existence of ANY of these
>> gods. ALL god beliefs are based on the unsubstantiated 'opinions and
>> claims of errant men.
>>
>>
>>
>> If there is a god that created the Universe, he is obviously not an
>> all-caring and benevolent god. Nor is he an "Intelligent Designer". The
>> objective evidence is if there is a god creator, he has NO concern
about
>> the welfare of the creatures on Earth.
>>
>>
>>
>> The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the
>> opposite; that man created gods!
>>
>>
>>
>> I challenge god believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence
>> that their god actually exists except in their over active
imaginations.
>>
Save your "wailing" for hell, where complaining incessantly about
God's
and His people's shortcomings is the main activity of it's inmates. See
below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast
into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints and
accusations) and the gna****ng of teeth (in perpetual frustration and
impotent rage).
--
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