"Midjis" <midwinter_m@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>
>> Atheists are materialists who only can think in terms of God being
>> some
>> material created object made of atoms and space, which naturally does
not
>> exist.
>
> Elsewhere in this thread, Al Klein assumed that, as a theist, I had no
> way of understanding his point of view when he was trying to tell me
> that atheists didn't/couldn't visualise gods at all. It's because I'm
> insane, no doubt, that I didn't 'get' him.
> But he misunderstood what I meant, I think. I am actually quite
> familiar with much of what he was saying. One of the points he was
> trying to get across (even though it wasn't quite what I was talking
> about) is the one you've missed here, "Pastor": atheists don't "think
> in terms of God being some material created object", as you suggest.
> That would require that an atheist has a specific concept of God that
> is related to the fact that they're an atheist. Of course they don't
> have any such concept, because they don't think of God, created or
> otherwise, in any terms for *themselves* at all.
>
Yes. I have heard that argument from atheists many times, but that
would
mean that atheists opine about something they don't know. In other words,
they literally don't know what they are talking about.
>> But there is no such rule. God can also mean a quality, principle,
>> virtue, and other such abstract standards, which are uncreated and
>> eternal,
>> and which definitely exist.
>
> Of course - and it's interesting that you should say that, considering
> the scathing remarks you've previously made about deity concepts that
> would fall precisely into that category.
>
Which was that? I would suggest you don't make such statements, unless
you can supply a relevant quote in sup****t. It makes you look like one of
those "wailing" atheists in the "outer darkness", just before they "gnash"
their teeth to bite.
> In fact, that the fervent
> "Pastor" Frank should use the words "God can also mean..." is quite
> noteworthy in itself.
>
Why would that be "noteworthy"? And why should you quotation mark
Pastor
Frank, but not the various other prelates we meet here?
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