On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:29:28 -0700, Midjis <midwinter_m@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>On 13 Oct, 19:08, Al Klein <ruk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> No. In a society in which there's no concept of gods, no one brings
>> it up.
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>Obviously not. But such a society would bear no comparison to ours in
>that regard, since in our society there is now and always has been a
>concept - or various concepts - of deity.
Which atheists don't talk about unless some theist brings the subject
up.
>The closest we'd ever be able to get
Is right here - since atheists don't discuss God unless theists raise
the subject.
>> People don't sit around discussing how they don't believe in
>> gods when no one makes a claim to believe in one.
>Just out of interest, would there be an alt.atheism in such a society,
>do you think?
In a society in which the concept of 'atheism' makes no sense? Of
course not. Is there an alt.atoothfairyism?
>> How many Greeks, prior to 100BC, talked about not believing in Jesus?
>So are we talking about Jesus now, or still about gods?
People don't believe in all gods, they believe in one or a small
subset.
>Greek society pre-Jesus had a sight more gods than most people have now.
But there were no people who discussed not believing in Jesus. Gods
are only discussed by atheists when theists bring the subject up. If
no one mentions the god, no one discusses not believing in it.
>> So please describe how a discussion about gods would come about in a
>> society that's completely atheistic (lacking any belief in any god).
>It probably wouldn't, of course - but as I said, we're not *in* such a
>society, and have never truly known one, it's pretty much a red
>herring for our purposes here.
It's on point. Atheists don't sit around discussing the gods they
don't believe in. They discuss not accepting theists' assertions
about THEIR gods. No atheist begins a discussion about how he doesn't
believe in god A or god B.
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Al at Webdingers dot com
"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example
of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved --
the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
- John Adams
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