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Re: QUESTION

by Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 13, 2007 at 12:15 AM

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:22:57 -0700, Midjis <midwinter_m@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>On 12 Oct, 13:45, Al Klein <ruk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Anyone making the claim, believer or not (and why would a non-believer
>> make the claim), assumes the burden of proof.
>
>Look at it this way: a believer believes; has all the proof he or she
>needs already. 

I'm not talking about someone who claims to believe, I'm talking about
someone who claims objective evidence that what he believes in
objectively exists.

> Not one scrap of that proof would satisfy a non-believer, who doesn't
believe.

You present objective evidence of the objective existence of a god -
any god - and there'll be very few atheists left.

>  The non-believer knows that there's nothing there to be proved. 

Most non-believers know only that there's no evidence that there's
anything there.  Provide it and they're no longer non-believers.
-- 
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)




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QUESTION
"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-08 19:17:11 
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John Popelish <jpopeli  2007-10-08 20:16:47 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:23:23 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2007-11-23 13:27:51 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-23 22:24:02 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-10-08 19:36:48 
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The Chief Instigator <  2007-10-09 00:24:39 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-10 06:38:57 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2007-11-23 15:14:31 
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"LC" <LC____  2007-11-23 14:21:46 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-23 22:28:01 
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Mike Smith <mikesmith@  2007-10-09 08:53:49 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-09 14:09:42 
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The Chief Instigator <  2007-10-09 09:21:46 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:21:49 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-09 17:57:33 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:27:51 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-11 16:09:40 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:33:38 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:36:55 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-10-10 07:43:53 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2007-10-11 00:18:55 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-10 23:35:12 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-10-10 07:42:36 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-10 10:49:37 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 09:58:45 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-15 05:58:52 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 06:41:47 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-17 02:18:56 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-17 04:55:42 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-18 03:40:29 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-18 05:35:12 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-23 13:05:27 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-10 12:41:26 
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"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-10 17:33:56 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 04:08:51 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 14:08:45 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-10 20:32:00 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 17:07:00 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 23:12:53 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 06:48:50 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-11 14:59:11 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 07:13:03 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-11 16:52:28 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-11 17:05:42 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 16:29:28 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 22:28:18 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-14 05:39:02 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-14 23:01:52 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-15 15:03:34 
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"L.Roberts" <  2007-10-11 10:41:11 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:24:15 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:26:25 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-12 08:45:46 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-14 04:49:10 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-14 21:08:59 
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"Khendon" <K  2007-10-14 20:30:10 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 04:43:12 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-15 13:03:30 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 07:06:17 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-15 14:52:47 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-17 02:14:18 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-17 04:56:45 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-17 09:20:28 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-18 03:46:24 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-18 05:36:28 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-23 13:06:59 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:30:26 
Re: Atheism vs. agnosticism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-14 08:51:03 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 06:22:57 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 10:52:08 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-12 11:13:05 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 12:25:41 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-12 12:43:33 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 00:18:25 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 00:15:21 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 12:17:39 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-15 22:45:41 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 06:53:02 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 06:58:56 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-14 08:34:40 
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"L.Roberts" <  2007-10-12 09:18:25 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 09:49:35 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 16:30:17 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-19 16:31:14 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-19 16:45:04 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 11:40:29 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 17:37:44 

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