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Re: QUESTION

by Midjis <midwinter_m@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 12, 2007 at 09:58 AM

On 12 Oct, 16:13, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> You forgot creationism

Creationism as a personal belief - though demonstrably irrational (as
opposed to religious belief in general which is merely presumed
irrational) - is a problem only for the individual, who prefers wilful
ignorance to knowledge.

Creationism forced on others is of course abusive and should be
opposed pro****tionally and reasonably.

> imposed prayer etc in public schools.

Imposed prayer is abusive and immoral, and should be opposed
pro****tionally and reasonably.

> Discrimination against atheists [...]

Discrimination against ANYONE based on religion is abusive and
immoral, and should... you get the idea.


> There is only one "side". Theists bringing up their beliefs
> inappropriately. Dawkins, Harris etc respond to that.

But Dawkins does not respond to 'theists bringing up their beliefs
inappropriately'.  If he limited himself to that, I'd have no problem
- as I'd have no problem with any atheist here expressing the same
reaction.  But Dawkins attacks religion and the religious,
universally, in all cir***stances; depending largely on the militant
atheist straw men that religious people are less intelligent, and that
the very concept of religion is intrinsically dangerous.  He is as
much an angry fundamentalist as anyone preaching the supposed and
irrelevant word of their God.  Blinkered fanaticism is no substitute
for sense and reason, no matter what grand words it might be dressed
up in.  It is intrinsically abusive, and contributes to extremism,
mistrust, fear and hatred.
 




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John Popelish <jpopeli  2007-10-08 20:16:47 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:23:23 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2007-11-23 13:27:51 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-23 22:24:02 
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Uncle Vic <address@[EM  2007-10-08 19:36:48 
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The Chief Instigator <  2007-10-09 00:24:39 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-10 06:38:57 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2007-11-23 15:14:31 
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"LC" <LC____  2007-11-23 14:21:46 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2007-11-23 22:28:01 
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Mike Smith <mikesmith@  2007-10-09 08:53:49 
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The Chief Instigator <  2007-10-09 09:21:46 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:21:49 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-09 17:57:33 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:27:51 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-11 16:09:40 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:33:38 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-09 14:36:55 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-10-10 07:43:53 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2007-10-11 00:18:55 
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Danwood <noreply@[EMAI  2007-10-10 23:35:12 
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlo  2007-10-10 07:42:36 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-10 10:49:37 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 09:58:45 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-15 05:58:52 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 06:41:47 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-17 02:18:56 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-17 04:55:42 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-18 03:40:29 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-18 05:35:12 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-23 13:05:27 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-10 12:41:26 
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"Bill M" <wm  2007-10-10 17:33:56 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 04:08:51 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 14:08:45 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-10 20:32:00 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 17:07:00 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 23:12:53 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 06:48:50 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-11 14:59:11 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 07:13:03 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-11 16:52:28 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-11 17:05:42 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-13 16:29:28 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 22:28:18 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-14 05:39:02 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-14 23:01:52 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-15 15:03:34 
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"L.Roberts" <  2007-10-11 10:41:11 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:24:15 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:26:25 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-12 08:45:46 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-14 04:49:10 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-14 21:08:59 
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"Khendon" <K  2007-10-14 20:30:10 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 04:43:12 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-15 13:03:30 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 07:06:17 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-15 14:52:47 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-17 02:14:18 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-17 04:56:45 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-17 09:20:28 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-18 03:46:24 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-18 05:36:28 
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gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-23 13:06:59 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-11 23:30:26 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-14 08:51:03 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 06:22:57 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 10:52:08 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-12 11:13:05 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 12:25:41 
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Christopher A.Lee <cal  2007-10-12 12:43:33 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 00:18:25 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-13 00:15:21 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-15 12:17:39 
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Al Klein <rukbat@[EMAI  2007-10-15 22:45:41 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 06:53:02 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-16 06:58:56 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-14 08:34:40 
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"L.Roberts" <  2007-10-12 09:18:25 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 09:49:35 
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"Rob Brown" <  2007-10-12 16:30:17 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-19 16:31:14 
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"Pastor Frank"   2007-10-19 16:45:04 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 11:40:29 
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Midjis <midwinter_m@[E  2007-10-12 17:37:44 

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